‘Sinners,’ Awards Season, and Pearline’s Husband With Jayme Lawson

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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Society & Culture

4.7 • 11.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2026

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Van and Rachel discuss Logan Paul vs. Le’Veon Bell and Dak Prescott’s wedding being called off before reacting to the shooting at Rihanna’s home. Then, they discuss an update on the war in Iran before actress Jayme Lawson joins to talk representation in Hollywood, awards season, and of course, ’Sinners.’ (0:00) Intro (2:08) Logan Paul vs. Le’Veon Bell (10:23) Dak Prescott and prenups (24:25) The shooting at Rihanna’s home (28:14) War in Iran (41:07) A conversation about Joe Budden: rooting for U.S.? (55:51) Jayme Lawson joins the show Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Jayme Lawson Producer: Donnie Beacham Jr. Social Producer: Bernard Moore Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, yo, yo, thought warriors.
0:09.2	What is up?
0:10.5	Higher learning is on is Ivan Lacey Jr.
0:12.3	And it is me, Rachel and Lindsay.
0:14.5	We have Jamie Lawson on the show today, Perlene, from sinners.
0:19.1	Bella Rial from the Batman and the Penguin.
0:23.1	He plays the mayoral candidate.
0:24.5	It becomes the man.
0:25.7	We talk about a whole bunch of stuff.
0:27.5	Great conversation.
0:29.1	It's a great convo.
0:29.9	I enjoyed it.
0:30.8	I really enjoy it.
0:31.5	I love when, like, our conference, it's not an interview.
0:34.9	It's just a conversation.
0:36.8	Like three people who just, you know,
0:39.2	like I felt like I've known it for a long time.
0:41.0	Can I just say, so smart, obviously so talented
0:45.8	and so beautiful.
0:47.4	Like I couldn't stop, I was telling them in the control,
0:49.4	I was like, she's so beautiful.
0:50.8	Wow, interesting.
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