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Thank you. The Hello, my friends.

And I'm Gabby.

And welcome back to the podcast, my hoes.

Oh, dear gun, my friends.

Okay. So I'm going to set the stage, my hoes. Oh, dear gun, my friends. Okay.

So I'm going to set the stage for you right now.

I was currently right before recording this past how to upstairs.

It is Monday night heading into Tuesday Labor Day right as we are getting ready to go and travel to Croatia just before our Turkey trip.

Which, speaking of which, by the way, before that, there are a couple spots that are available for our Thailand trip, as well as our Greece trip. Greece trip has, I think, six discounted spots. So if you want one, get on that. And in the meantime, if you want something that is definitely cheaper, check out Thailand. It is the cheapest trip that we have ever launched. By all means. Either way, we are getting ready to go on a big group adventure and we are exhausted in the lead up to this because we are working, working, working, working, working. So it's like, oh, you know, our daughter's having a little bit of difficulty sleeping. We're just going to go and lay down with her a bit, you know, just let me make sure that she can fall asleep. And then lo and behold, I pass out while

doing that. So if that does not tell you what it is that we have had to do while prepping for

going away again, I can't paint a better picture. So I do apologize. I mean, he was so asleep. Like she fell asleep. He fell asleep. And then I went up to wake him up. I let him sleep for like an hour. And I go up there to wake him up. And he's like, uh, no. So I'm like, okay, you can sleep some more. So I just came downstairs and finished packing. And so here we are, my friends. We are here with another story for you

all. In fact, the story that we're going to be talking about today is it's a story of two businessmen

that honestly, all of us could probably use as an example of good morals as well as very bad morals.

You can probably see from the title of this in the first place as well as the description.

It's a weird one.

This is a good leader and a bad leader, an honest man who lived by his convictions and a conman who lived a life that was full of lies.

I mean, there's no really other way to say it.

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