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Hello and welcome to Happy Place. I'm Fern Cotton and this is the show where you can forget

about your troubles and your strife, or the very least overcome them hopefully by listening to

the troubles of others. Today we meet the lead singer of one of my favourite bands, Long-term

fan, Biffy Clio. It is of course Simon Neal. There's been a couple of times where I've

felt a little guilt about singing about my mum passing away. And it took me a couple of years

to realise, no, no, that's what makes me make art. I don't want to sit down the morning right

as long as it's about my breakfast or something. Now, Simon and I have met several times over the

years, but we only really have ever had the chance to speak for a few minutes because of the nature

of TV and radio. And I've always sort of come away wanting to dig a little bit deeper and thankfully,

on this podcast, I can, I can do whatever I like quite frankly. And he does not disappoint.

Should we do it? Here's the show.

So, Simon, this is such a tree. I'm so glad we're getting to chat today. Historically, I would

talk to you or interview you for about eight minutes max. But we can just forget the rules today

and just keep on talking, which is so nice. Well, it's lovely to see you,

if there are, I hope I can do all of this. And no, it's probably a bit through your four years.

I mean, you're off doing your thing. We're still grafting away in the music world as it changes

and evolves. As you know, I'm a huge fan of yours and I always have been. So, it's just amazing

to always follow your career. How have you found this very weird year? Obviously, there's no touring,

there's no live music scene. How have you found that? I think like most people, I've

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