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Hello, I'm Tina Deheili and this is Beyond Today, the space to ask one big question

about one big story every day.

Today we're asking, how do you learn who you are.

Are we on now? Is this happening?

Uh, I mean, no, yes. Yes, I mean, we always record everything.

Okay, cool.

I just, so I know how to funny to be.

One of the best things about doing this podcast is that you get the chance to have some

honest conversations with interesting people and you don't get more honest or interesting than

Simon Amstel. He's a comedian and director and a familiar face who a lot of us grew up with.

I worked as a runner on Pop World with him more than a decade ago, although he doesn't seem to remember me.

Simon's just made a semi-autographical film,

which along with therapy and a psychedelic South American drug

has helped him to come to terms with who he really is and deal with his

anxiety and intimacy problems. The film is called Benjamin, it's brilliant and it's out today.

He popped in yesterday to tell us about it. He was very funny and we covered a lot of ground.

Our need for external validation, awkward sex scenes, my womb, an imaginary gorilla, and we even had time for a small diversion

into veganism.

How are you?

Yeah, I'm good, how are you, Tina Deheelie?

Yeah, very good, very good. How are you, Tina Deheelie? Yeah, very good.

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