Hello, Jen here to tell you about this week's episode of The Sunday Chops. Through her own

experience of becoming single parent to a one-year-old child, Zoe Desmond wanted to change

the picture for people in similar situations to her. Feeling isolated as a single parent,

she set up the Frolo app, which is aimed at helping to foster a community focused on the

joys of solo parenting rather than the negative stereotypes often perpetuated by society

and the media that can leave single parents feeling particularly isolated. It was through

that app that she met journalist Rebecca Cox, who herself was a single mother also to

a one-year-old, who shared many of the same concerns as her and others in their community.

So having noticed the same questions coming up again and again, they decided to write a book

about it how to be a happy single parent, which is a practical handbook for anyone parenting

alone or maybe thinking about doing so. This week I talked to them about the shared experiences

of single parents, how society could better support single parents and the joys to be found

in bringing up a small one on your own. Obviously I myself am a single parent, so I found

the chat absolutely fascinating and I hope that you will enjoy it too.

I am joined by Zoe Desmond. Hi. Rebecca Cox. Hello, thanks for having me. Thank you for

being here. Co-authors of the new book How to Be a Happy Single Parent. If you've got

the answers, I'm here for them guys. We'll come to the book in just a minute, but first

because this is kind of integral to the story. So you're also the founder of the Frollo app,

which I think, unless I've misunderstood this, is that how you two actually met?

Yes, we met via Frollo, and actually Rebecca was the very first person on the Frollo

podcast, so it's weird, it's a serendipity out of bed.

Can you tell us a little bit for the people who are listening to you maybe, aren't single

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