SIM Ep 397 Chops 171: Jenny Kleeman talks Sex Robots & Vegan Meat

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Society & Culture

4.8 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 July 2020

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Journalist and documentary maker Jenny Kleeman talks to Mickey about her astonishing debut non-fiction, Sex Robots & Vegan Meat. Five years in the writing, Jenny delves into new innovations in technology on the frontiers of sex, food, birth and death that will, in the future, change the way we live (and die) forever.

They talk about the impact these technologies will have on women, which tends to be – wait for it! – negative and also tends to outweigh any negative effect on men. They also chat about some positive outcomes, Terminator on the dark web, and Jurassic Park.

Jenny is utterly engaging with a nicely dark sense of humour when it comes to the dystopia seemingly just around the corner. She’s also hopeful about the human race. Can she convince our Mick to feel the same?

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0:00.0	This is a passenger announcement. You can now book your train on Uber and get 10% back in credits to spend on Uber eats.
0:11.0	So you can order your own fries instead of eating everyone else's.
0:15.0	Trains, now on Uber. T's and C's apply. Check the Uber app. Standard Issue for all women.
0:35.0	Hello Mickey here, welcome to this week's Sunday Chops.
0:39.0	This dear listener is my full interview with journalist and documentary maker Jenny Cleman about
0:44.5	her astonishing debut non-fiction sex robots and vegan meat. Five years in the writing
0:49.9	Jenny delves into new innovations in technology on the frontiers of sex, food, birth and death that will in the future change the way we live and die forever and for now haunt your waking hours. You are welcome. We talk about the impact these
1:04.2	technologies will have on women which surprise surprise tends to be negative and
1:08.1	also tends to outweigh any negative effect on men. I know who'd have thought it? We also chat about some positive outcomes as well as Terminator on the dark web and Jurassic Park.
1:18.0	Just a heads up when we're chatting about the birth bio bags we talk about a trans person Jenny interviewed and I just want to make clear that their
1:25.2	chosen pronouns are they then which is why we're using those. Sex robots and
1:29.7	vegan meat is an astonishing page turner of a book. I genuinely couldn't put it down.
1:34.6	Jenny is brilliantly engaging with a delightfully twisted sense of humor when it comes to
1:38.7	the dystopia seemingly just around the corner. She's also pretty hopeful about the human race.
1:44.3	Can she convince me to feel the same? Listen on my friend, listen on.
1:48.8	I am joined on the phone by Jenny Cleman, journalist, documentary maker, an author of sex robots and vegan meat.
1:57.0	A fascinating book that will give you nightmares.
2:00.0	Jenny, hello and thank you for the sleepless nights.
2:02.0	Thank you very much for having me.
2:05.1	Sorry about those sleepless nights.
2:07.4	I mean, I can only imagine how many sleepless nights you've had actually
2:10.4	speaking to these people, but more on that later. The subtitle for Sex Robots in
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