This is 40-year-old Cathy, mother of two and self-confessed tele addict.

Oh, look at you, that's brilliant. Well done!

This is also Cathy, working in a team to restore order at her local prison.

And helping someone son write his first letter home in eight months.

Well done, you should be really proud.

Thank you, Rest.

An extraordinary job done by someone like you.

Such prison jobs now.

Standard issue for all women.

Hello, and welcome to this week's Sunday Chops,

in which I am joined by our friends over at the Strong Female Leads podcast,

Kate McCabe and Deborah Jane Applebee.

Because Christmas is just around the corner,

and they have some great suggestions for what to buy the geek or geeks in your life.

Because nobody wants another hastily grabbed toiletries set.

Well, maybe some people do.

But you know, why do that?

When you can buy people something that they actually want.

Like a t-shirt with Angela Lansbury's face on.

Who doesn't want that?

Keep on cast.

Hannah here.

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