Siliconsciousness: Is the Pentagon Winning the Battle to Make AI More Dangerous?

The DSR Network

Chris Cotnoir

Government

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🗓️ 25 February 2026

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

The Pentagon wants less restricted, more dangerous AI—and it seems like they’re getting it. Pete Hegseths’s showdown with Anthropic is just the latest instance of this administration’s pursuit of radical deregulation of artificial intelligence that shows no signs of slowing. The Brennan Center’s Amos Toh joins David Rothkopf to explore the ramifications of deregulation for defense, public safety, and the future of the industry. This material is distributed by TRG Advisory Services, LLC on behalf of the Embassy of the United Arab Emirates in the U.S.. Additional information is available at the Department of Justice, Washington, DC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:44.3	Welcome to CILA Consciousness, the DSR Network podcast focusing on the artificial intelligence revolution, politics and policy.
1:02.5	Thank you. artificial intelligence revolution, politics and policy. Hello and welcome to SILA consciousness. I'm David Rothkoff, your host this week.
1:07.4	It's every week. We're going to talk about some important developments in the area of
1:11.6	AI-related technologies, policy, and how it's unfolding. And today we have a former guest who had a
1:22.2	great response to last time he was here. James Toe, who's senior counsel and manager in the Brennan Center's Liberty and National
1:29.8	Security Program.
1:31.2	His research and commentary have been featured in outlets such as NPR, the Associated Press,
1:37.9	Wired, The Guardian, and Forbes.
1:41.9	Hi, Amos.
1:43.6	Hi, David. It's good to be with you. I saw a post that you did, I think,
1:50.4	on Blue Sky or some such place the other day, and it was about this, at the time, mini standoff
1:58.7	between Anthropic and the Defense Department, because the Defense
2:05.0	Department wanted Anthropic to reduce its guardrails, its safety practices, which had
2:13.5	been kind of a centerpiece of anthropics identity.
2:20.3	And, you know, they, you know, had set themselves apart, you know, we're the AI company with
2:26.8	values. And so then we invited you to join, and then the meeting with the Defense Department
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