This is Past the Mike.

Greetings and God bless. Welcome to another episode of Past the Mike, Dynamic Voices for

a Diverse Church Power by the Witness, a Black Christian Collective. I am your host, Tyler

Burns. You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at BurnsClan. Please follow at your own

risk. And joining me, as always, is the founder of The Witness. He has a very extensive bio,

the man, the myth, the legend, the two-time bestselling author, the history professor,

the international speaker. Mr. Bluecheck verified himself. Dr. Jamar Tisby was going on, brother.

Feeling good. Feeling hot. It's 102 degrees outside, but there's another topic altogether.

Yes, listen. Listen. Listen. This heat is not regular heat. This

earth is not a regular earth anymore. You notice I said, earth, E-A-R-F, the earth ain't

regular no more. It might be E-E-E-A-R-F. It might be like six E's. It's funny. When we

started doing these retreats in this last iteration of Past the Mike, we've talked about

so many times where you were not able to say what you have been called to say, or places

that silenced and suppressed you from being able to speak. And one of these places I remember

was Grove City. And this was maybe the most famous of the places. Grove City College, where

there's so much backlash after you deliver a talk on the color of compromise. So you went

there to deliver that talk. All this backlash happens. And then now as a result, the audio

is lost. Did you ever get that? I didn't even go heavy into this because with Grove City

College, for folks who don't know, there was all this manufactured controversy partly over

a chapel message I gave. Now what most folks don't realize is that was only one of the two

talks that I gave. So I gave the chapel message that morning, but that evening I gave a book

talk on the color of compromise. Mysteriously, that book talk, which was supposed to be recorded,

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