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I guess when it comes to the, because the faith thing, so it's, because's because I, I, the thing that this film doesn't explore that I wish it would is that the existence of extraterrestrial life to me is an immediate contradiction to some aspects of Christianity.

Oh, yeah, no, it definitely doesn't go there.

Exactly.

And it doesn't talk about those things.

And again, I'm entering into the territory.

I'm like, well, what is this movie?

I'm mad at what this movie is not doing, the movie I would rather see.

So I'm trying to avoid that.

But at the same time, I'm like, well, if you're going to open up these conversations, that should be a factor.

Okay. Okay, well, let me hit you with this then.

Do you consider this film a religious film?

Yes, absolutely.

Okay, there was no hesitation.

I thought you might want to reflect on it for a moment, but okay, so tell me why.

And when you say, is it a religious film, or you say, is it pro-religion or is it just about religion?

Yes, both. I mean, again, we've already said the central crux of the story is mel gibson's crisis of faith okay but faith is not the same as

religion that's true i guess no you you are right i guess because he is episcopalian so it is

immediately labeled as Christianity, and then

we're also not talking about any of the other religions, which...

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