I can't tell you how many sprained ankles I had.

That just goes with a job.

You're also looking around for things like dogs.

That's a problem, you just you want to be aware and were you ever chased by dogs? Sure plenty of times. That's not just like a cartoon stereotype of dogs chasing post-men.

No.

This is Phil Rubio.

And it really hurts too to get bit.

I'm Scott Land.

Welcome to Nerdcast.

Today, a conversation with a former male carrier,

with magazine editor, Zach Stanton.

I think I've spoken to Phil Bora in the last two weeks that I've spoken to my parents.

So I've been thinking about the mail a lot recently.

I think it's one of those things that you never really think about and then the moment that you think about it becomes really interesting.

It's in the same way that when the Flint water crisis hit, it just doesn't occur to you that this is something you even need to

think about, like the cleanliness of drinking water and the idea that these pipes are actually

coursing through your house and underneath the ground that you stand on.

And suddenly when you think about this thing that you've taken totally for granted up

until this point, you realize how important it is and you realize how intricate it is and

that you didn't really appreciate any of it before.

And so that's, I think, the point that I met right now and what has led me to, I think, quickly

develop an interest in this thing that I had otherwise just sort of taken for granted.

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