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if you set the combination locks to 308-357 or 3006 you're in the place. It's Tom Gresham's gun talk. Call 866, talk gun.

All right, back with you. Tom Gresham, it's Gun Talk Gun.

We're at the SIG Range Day in Las Vegas.

This is two days before the actual shot show starts, but a lot of events are going on because we can't fit it all into even four days of

shot show shot show of course is the shooting hunting outdoor trade show 60

70,000 people there 600 to 700,000 square feet of...

And by the way you can't go there.

If you're not in the firearms business, you can't go there.

It's not open to the public, it's not a gun show like that.

It is the industry trade show, but it's where a lot of new things are

introduced, a lot of business takes place there. But right now we're out at SIG

and they're showing some of their cool stuff and of course as you probably know if you've been

following this at all. Sigg wants just a gun company now it's like an

everything company with ammo and optics and suppressors and everything else and

we're talking with Andy York and Joe Futtel.

Hey Joe, how you doing?

Good, how you doing?

Good.

I'm glad to finally meet you and you kind of come to this honestly with your family background

in sports optics and hunting optics, right?

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