Sick Boy – How RFK’s crank health agenda is making America ill again

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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🗓️ 14 April 2026

⏱️ 29 minutes

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When Trump appointed the crankish Robert F Kennedy Jr to head America’s Department of Health and Human Services, he brought paranoid, anti-science “do your own research” thinking to the centre of US health policy. Kennedy has since promoted extreme anti-vaxxers, cut cancer and vaccine research, and spread dangerous lies about autism and vaccination. Now measles is surging in the US and trust in public health institutions is collapsing. Will RFK’s “Make America Healthy Again” agenda usher in a new age of mass disease? Dr Gigi Gronvall, Senior Scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, talks to Emma Kennedy about the dangers of Kennedy’s misinformation agenda – and how America can rebuild its public health capabilities. www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Emma Kennedy. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio production: Tom Taylor. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Artwork by James Parrett. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:59.6	Welcome to The Bunker News Without the Nonsense every weekday morning.
1:00.6	I'm Emma Kennedy.
1:07.6	On today's edition, we've all seen Robert F. Kennedy Jr's bizarre claims about vaccines from claiming the measles vaccine causes measles, to the outlandish claim
1:12.4	that measles can be cured with cod liver oil. Funny, right? Except it's not. Measles, a disease
1:20.7	we once saw wiped out in the US and the UK, is back, and outbreaks are growing, vaccination
1:26.6	rates are falling, and anti-science ideas from
1:30.2	raw milk to detoxing instead of using tried and tested medicine are edging into official
1:35.8	policy.
1:37.2	So how did the fringe make America healthy again movement capture American public health policy,
1:44.0	and could this wave of denial undo
1:46.0	decades of progress? Joining me is Dr. Gigi Grunval, immunologist and biosecurity expert at John
1:53.9	Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. Gigi, thank you for joining me on the bunker.
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