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Top Traders Unplugged

SI68: The surprising relationship between volatility and risk

Top Traders Unplugged

Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

Business, Business News, Investing, News

4.8712 Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2019

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s episode, we discuss the notion of correlation between volatility and risk, why it can be a bad idea to equate a manager’s performance with their skill-level, when a losing trade should still be considered a good trade, how much opportunity is in Low-Volatility Targeting strategies, and we also give our end-of-year reviews.  Questions answered this week include: Is Trend Following another form of price prediction?  Do you follow the weekly Commitments of Traders report? Can you can you make money in the markets without the need for predictions?

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Episode TimeStamps:

00:00 – Intro

00:55 – Macro recap from Niels

03:10 – Weekly review of performance

18:41  – Top tweets

43:29 – Question 1: Woody; Is Trend Following another form of predicting price moves?

01:00:18 – Question 2 William; Do you follow the weekly COT (Commitments of Traders) report?

01:05:02 – Benchmark performance update

01:08:52 – End of year recap

01:19:32 – Top tweets (cont.)

01:20:59 – Thank you to our listeners in 2019

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0:00.0

You're about to join Jerry Parker, Maritz Seabert, and Nealz Kostrup Larson on their

0:06.3

raw and honest journey into the world of systematic investing and learn about the most dependable

0:11.6

and consistent yet often overlooked investment strategy. Welcome to the Systematic Investor

0:16.8

podcast series. Welcome to the last edition of 2019 of the Systematic Investor Series with Jerry Parker,

0:25.7

or at Cepard and I, Niels Kastrolassen, where we, in addition to our usual topics,

0:30.8

we'll discuss some of the highlights of the last 12 months and how we view the current

0:36.6

state of trend following, perhaps perhaps but before we get into all

0:40.7

of this let me start by saying good morning to you jerry and good afternoon to marts how are you doing

0:46.6

hello gents how are you doing well glad to be on the last podcast of the year and look forward to the

0:53.3

2020 yes yeah absolutely it's going to be

0:56.9

exciting no doubt and of course this was a bit of a quiet week from a market perspective

1:03.2

during this holiday season i think it's kind of the only time of the year where there's one day

1:10.3

where none of the markets are are open so it's kind of the only time of the year where there's one day where none of the markets are open.

1:14.0

So it's not much of a market review that I have to offer this week.

1:20.0

Of course, last week we did talk about this article from Cliff Asnes about how kind of illiquid investments

1:28.7

where you don't have to mark to market,

1:31.9

so they also have artificially low volatility,

1:35.6

and I think we all think about private equity as a good example of that,

1:39.4

how these types of investments perhaps are easier for investors to stick with compared to what we do in the

1:47.0

trend following world but then at the same time this week I did notice there was a report out

1:54.6

from Morningstar who came with the conclusion that higher volatility brings higher returns.

2:05.3

And of course, for us in the trend-folling world, that is no surprise.

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