SI336: How to Invest in Turbulent Times? ft. Graham Robertson
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Niels Kaastrup-Larsen
4.8 • 712 Ratings
🗓️ 22 February 2025
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
With global market dynamics shifting rapidly and geopolitical noise reaching new heights, how can investors adapt and thrive? In this episode, we explore why an adaptive approach is crucial for navigating today’s turbulent financial landscape. Our conversation delves into the challenges investors face when competing against dominant market players and how trend-following strategies can shine in times of crisis. We also examine the often-overlooked disconnect between price and value - and how this mismatch might actually present fresh opportunities. Join us for an insightful discussion with Graham Robertson from Man AHL, as we unpack these critical insights and explore why trend following remains a powerful tool for generating "crisis alpha." Buckle up for a fascinating conversation!
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Episode TimeStamps:
01:11 - What has caught our attention recently?
03:27 - Are kids too worried about the state of the world?
05:58 - Our current observations on trend
10:54 - How to capture the moves in the European energy markets
13:05 - Valuable insights on alternative markets
17:11 - Are alternative markets trending better?
23:02 - The state of liquidity in the industry
25:52 - How Man AHL approaches crypto
29:47 - Industry performance update
31:42 - Q1, Rick: Is a cross-over system typically the primary tool for Trend?
37:14 - The origins of breakout systems
41:36 - The taxi driver problem
46:15 - Using trend as a alternative defensive strategy
50:27 - Are investors expecting more from trend following?
53:35 - Defensive equities and the impact of Deepseek
57:59 - The disconnect between price and value
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | You're about to join Neil's Kostrup Larson on a raw and honest journey into the world of systematic investing |
| 0:09.0 | and learn about the most dependable and consistent yet often overlooked investment strategy. |
| 0:14.0 | Welcome to the Systematic Investor Series. |
| 0:28.1 | Welcome and welcome back to this week's edition of the Systematic Investor Series with Graham Robertson and I, Nealz, Kastrom Larson, where each week we take the polls |
| 0:32.1 | of the global market through the lens of a rules-based investor. |
| 0:35.8 | Graham, it is wonderful to be back with you this week. |
| 0:38.8 | How are you doing? |
| 0:39.6 | Very well, Niels. |
| 0:40.7 | Great to be back. |
| 0:42.3 | Yeah, I had a couple of busy weeks traveling around, |
| 0:46.2 | talking to lots of clients about trend and outlooks. |
| 0:50.4 | Hopefully something we'll be discussing in a bit more detail today. |
| 0:54.3 | Yes, absolutely. It seems like, because I've been on the road as well for quite a few weeks by now, |
| 1:00.4 | it seems like we're certainly in the busy travel season, which actually does lead to some |
| 1:06.9 | interesting observation about what our prospects and clients are thinking about. |
| 1:13.3 | And speaking about thinking about, Graham, you know, I love to start with this question, |
| 1:18.1 | which has nothing to do with really the topics we're going to talk about, |
| 1:21.1 | because I think we have a great lineup of topples that we're going to be tackling. |
| 1:24.9 | But I would love to hear sort of from maybe your own personal point of view. What's been on your radar the last few weeks? |
| 1:32.3 | Well, I guess it's hard to pass up what's going on to you politically, particularly what's |
| 1:38.1 | going on in Ukraine and Russia and the dynamics of the new president. And all that is happening, |
| 1:44.1 | and I'm sure we'll cover that |
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