Hi, I'm Grant Wall, and welcome to the Planet Football Podcast, where I go in depth with the most intriguing people in the world of soccer.

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For this episode we have two guests, S.I. Senior writer Chris Ballard, who wrote a terrific

new magazine story on Jorgon Klinzman, and Ian Ayer the former Liverpool CEO who has just

been named the CEO of Nashville's MLS team.

I think you'll enjoy these onward.

Joining me now is Sports Illustrated Senior W and it's a fantastic read that I suggest you check out. Chris, thanks for joining me.

Yeah, pleasure to be on.

Yeah, lots to talk about here, really love the story, and you know there's not a lot that we've heard from

Jorgon Klinzman since he was let go

as the US soccer, US men's national team coach

in late 2016. How did this story come together?

This was our soccer editor, or one of them, Adam Duerson, approached me and thought, maybe we get

uh, Kunsman to talk. He's coming up in the World Cup. Maybe he's ready. He did something

with the LA Times briefly with Kevin Baxter in January

he spoke at one of these coaches conferences it turns out you're gonna love his coaches

conferences he's all in on that and so those are basically his two public or semi-public appearances and so Adam

reached out and said essentially you know what do you think about trying to get

your get my first response was,

well, doesn't you want Grant Wall to do that.

I mean, that's a nice response and thank you.

I should probably be the one to explain.

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