From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

Shogun co-creator Justin Marks says he and his wife, Rachel Kondo, poured blood, sweat, and tears into their massively expensive and heavily subtitled FX Limited series.

But none of that hardship compares to the hardship of actually saying yes to something like this.

I don't know how they have slept at night for the last few years,

just knowing the risk, the expenditure, and the potential downside exposure to something that is as ambitious as this.

Marks and Kondo talk about taking on a new and very different Shogun

more than 40 years after the miniseries starring Richard Chamberlain and Toshira Mufune,

and they lay out the elaborate five-step process of translating their English words into Japanese dialogue.

But first we banter, stick around.

It's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my associate and banter, Matt Bellany. Hello, Matt.

Hi there. So I'm just going to quickly mention the Disney proxy fight. You know, that vote

comes up next week, and it is a furious battle. A couple of major corporate governance shareholder advisory firms

have actually said Nelson Peltz, the Raiders, should get a seat. I mean, Nelson Peltz,

meanwhile, was giving an interview to the Financial Times saying things like, why do they have to make a

movie with all black people? And honestly, I don't know what some of these people are thinking, but okay.

And, you know, Eiger is striking back with Michael Eisner, who himself was in a very unusual

move deposed as chairman because of a shareholder revolt.

So that's where that's at.

We'll see what happens.

But I'm going to put it to the bigger story, I think, for this week, which is the complete bizarre chaos at NBC News, including MSNBC, where apparently

the powers that be have decided that bringing in Ronna McDaniel, you know, who is an election-denying,

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