Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture.

This is Tim Barton, the president of Wall Builders, joined with my dad, David Barton, the founder

of Wall Builders, and normally our third amigo Rick Green is with us, but in the midst of his

traveling over the weekend and speaking, he lost his voice.

We told him, rest a little bit. Hopefully he'll be with us tomorrow. He could have been with us

today, in fairness. He could have been on here. We just wouldn't have heard anything he said.

And if he was with us now, I would make jokes about that, but he's not. So I'm going to let it go.

But we are today going to be joined with a very

good friend Congressman, very Loudermilk, who has done a lot of interesting things in his career.

He's got a military background. He's got an incredible book, maybe some more than just these things.

But his book, and then they prayed. We've had him on the program before to talk about that.

There's a 250th anniversary edition coming out, which is super fun.

But also, he served on some pretty significant committees.

And with all that's going on right now, not the least of which the government shut down,

and we thought, let's see if he will jump on and maybe give us some insight to what's going on.

Dad, you and I yesterday talked about maybe some of the government shut down the significance of there being a billionaire who's giving $130 million to try to make sure the military has paychecks.

But there's a lot of stuff going on right now.

Yeah, it's going to be great having Barry.

And Barry, thank you for being here.

You've been a great friend, great warrior on so many issues. And so we appreciate you. And for those who don't know, he represents Georgia. And so just a lot of stuff he's doing. We'll get into some of that. But Tim and I were talking yesterday about the shutdown. And it's like when Republicans cause a shutdown, about 10

seconds after it starts, they keep telling you how many people have died already since a shutdown.

And it's like, this is the second longest shutdown in history. And I'm not sure that the

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