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Talking Feds

Shutdown Smackdown, Chi-Town Showdown

Talking Feds

Harry Litman

News, Politics, Government

4.84.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Harry pulls in a trio of political pros—former Senator Barbara Boxer, Jonathan Capehart, and Norm Ornstein—to assess the fight over the shutdown. Who will the public blame? How long will it last? They turn next to the stunning federal raid in Chicago, with agents busting down doors and snipers dropping in from helicopters. Does the action signal not just the abandonment of the 4th Amendment, but the arrival of an American gestapo? Finally, the trio decode Trump's speech to top military leaders, with its ominous call to use U.S. cities as "training grounds" for troops. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Talking Feds, a roundtable that brings together prominent former federal officials and special guests.

0:13.0

For a dynamic discussion of the most important political and legal topics of the day, I'm Harry Littman.

0:20.5

It was a week in which Trump played the

0:23.2

madman in a military dictatorship. Federal troops raided an entire building in Chicago as if it

0:30.7

were some overseas military target. The action patently ignored the Fourth Amendment and subjected the residents who included U.S. citizens to Trump-style justice.

0:43.3

Elsewhere, Secretary of War, Pete Hegsef, summoned top military leaders from all over the world for a meeting in which Hegsef seemed like a cross between a boy playing

0:55.4

with his G.I. Joe's and a low-rent motivational speaker.

1:00.3

If his speech was meant to rouse the enthusiasm of the assembled generals, it didn't seem

1:06.4

to work.

1:07.8

And the headline news. Democrats and Republicans in Congress were unable to agree on a

1:13.4

spending bill, shuddering the federal government. Trump promised to use the powers that a shutdown

1:20.4

provides him to ransack so-called Democrat agencies. But early polls suggested Republicans were losing the blame game,

1:30.0

raising the question of whether the majority would look to dig its way out of the stalemate

1:35.1

sooner rather than later. To analyze Trump's brass knuckles approach to Democrats in Congress

1:42.3

and residents in Chicago, We welcome a banner group of

1:46.7

analysts with extensive experience in the ways of government, and they are. Senator Barbara Boxer,

1:54.0

a former U.S. Congresswoman and senator from California who represented the state in D.C. from

1:59.9

1983 to 2017. Before then, she served on the

2:05.0

Marin County Board of Supervisors and was the board's first female president. Thank you, as always,

2:12.4

for joining Senator Boxer. Thank you. Jonathan Capehart, the anchor of The Weekend on MSNBC and a political

2:22.1

analyst for PBS News Hour. He was a longtime columnist for the Washington Post before leaving

2:29.4

this summer after 18 years with the paper. Earlier in his career, he shared in a Pulitzer Prize win for the New York Daily News editorial board.

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