A real guy dot on a real cross for the real you.

And if you really give him your life, he can really change it forever.

I did my PhD on the resurrection.

I've published 300,000 words on the resurrection.

I was conditioned to be a skeptic on the shroud.

And now I believe the shroud is authentic, Pastor Josh, because I'm not irrational.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode number 69 of Live Free with Jeremiah Johnson. We are really excited. Very excited to be here, John. Thank you, guys. So for people who are unaware of what's about to happen, I seriously think this is going to be the most interesting episode of Live Free we've ever done. And I'll explain why here in a second.

We're going to go full Indiana Jones. Let's go. I love it. This is like Da Vinci Code meets Nicholas Cage National Treasurer meets Indiana Jones. But without the heresy. That's right. That's right. Without the overt antichrist heresy. That's how it feels. That's right. That's right. Okay. Hey, so here's my lead-in.

And if you're listening, when I say this sentence, if you roll your eyes, I'm asking you to stay with me. We're getting ready to spend like an hour talking about the shroud of Turin. Let's go.

Okay, so let me just set this up. I literally just saw this two days ago. I'm scrolling X, and there's a new, I think it was Newsweek. They do this article on like, what did Jesus really look like? And they do this every Easter. And it looks like a Neanderthal that somebody drew. Yeah, in seventh grade. And so here's the question. What if we actually already know what Jesus looked like because of what you're about to walk us through? Bro, not only that, Jesus took the first selfie.

Whoa.

We're about to check it out.

Bro.

My 15-year-old daughter will be delighted to know that.

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