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The Ricochet Podcast

Showdown at the Not-So-OK Corral

The Ricochet Podcast

Ricochet

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

It's just Steve and Charles this week, taking in another wild one. Don and Elon are on the outs — but is it permanent? The courts are busy, and a handful of great, unanimous decisions get their due cheer; Karine Jean-Pierre goes independent; Ukraine's drones remind us that modern warfare has changed; and Sam Tanenhaus published his long-awaited Buckley bio. Tune in for Hayward's review preview.




- Sound from this week's open: Elon Musk distances himself from the Trump Administration in an interview with CBS Sunday Morning
 

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0:00.0

Oh, yeah, I've had people say they want me to get at least two good Charles C.W. Cook rants out of you.

0:07.4

You know, with a mollycoddle in each one or something, or it's equivalent.

0:11.4

I'll try and find some word that marks me out.

0:15.0

Ask not what your country can do for you.

0:19.9

Ask what you can do for your country mr gorbachev tear down this wall

0:26.8

it's the ricochet podcast steve heyward sitting in the host chair today joined by a recovered charles c w cook

0:35.4

so let's have ourselves a podcast and um, you know, it's not like I

0:41.3

agree with everything the administration does. So it's like there's, I mean, I agree with much

0:48.3

of what the administration does, but we have differences of opinion. So then I'm, I'm a little stuck

0:52.6

in a bind where I'm like, well, I don't want to,

0:56.3

you know, speak out against the administration, but I don't want to, I also don't want to take

1:02.9

responsibility for everything the administration is doing. Welcome everybody to the Rikoshae podcast,

1:07.5

number 744. It's Steve Hayward sitting in for James Lylex today, who is cavorting

1:13.1

somewhere over in the wilds of Italy. I am in the North Atlantic where it is snowing at the moment.

1:19.8

I'm so far north, but I'm pleased that we are joined by the fast recovering Charles C.W. Cook,

1:25.9

who has been down with the bubonic plague or something like that.

1:29.7

Charles, how are you feeling? And what have you been going through the last couple of weeks?

1:35.3

Oh, man. I don't quite know what it is. I thought it was strep, because I work up with a horrendous

1:41.1

razor blade-esque sore throat. And then it wasn't strep because that went away

1:45.7

pretty quickly but all these other symptoms came along and now i have what is really a glorified cold

1:50.4

and that's the best part thus far of my journey i feel like i'm on the exit ramp aha well sounds like

1:57.3

i'm about to put to see when the sound of that horn blowing in the background. I don't know if you heard that or not.

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