Show 402. Lewis Goodall
Matt Forde's Political Party
The Political Party
4.7 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 13 May 2026
⏱️ 94 minutes
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Summary
WOAH.
Recorded the night Labour MPs began calling on Keir Starmer to resign, this is an adrenaline-fuelled up-to-the-minute analysis of what has gone wrong and what happens next.
PLUS great stuff about Lewis's life growing up, his book, his mum and the dynamic between him, Emily Maitlis and Jon Sopel.
It's a corker.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the political party. |
| 0:12.9 | Today's guest is Lewis Goodall, star of the news agents, and LBC, Sky News. |
| 0:17.9 | News Night, so many other places. |
| 0:19.8 | What a gifted broadcaster, So charismatic, really funny. |
| 0:23.7 | Not a bad impressionist. We get treated to a few throughout the interview. A great person |
| 0:29.1 | spent time with. Wonderful. And really thinks about politics deeply and has an analysis of it, which is great. |
| 0:38.6 | You know, he's not just following the day to day. |
| 0:40.5 | He's clearly a political obsessive, which is sort of an added layer to him, really. |
| 0:46.5 | And a fascinating life story. |
| 0:48.0 | We talk about that. |
| 0:48.8 | We do do a bit of personal stuff. |
| 0:50.3 | Obviously, the main topic of conversation, and you need to bear in mind when you listen to this. |
| 0:55.0 | This was recorded on Monday the 11th of May. I'm recording this now on Tuesday the 12th of May. |
| 1:01.2 | By the time you listen to this earliest, it's Wednesday the 13th of May. I think at times in this |
| 1:05.5 | conversation, in a way we fall into the trap of prematurely assessing Kirst Dommer in retrospect that things felt |
| 1:13.2 | like they were moving so quickly on Monday night that we thought we might come off stage and he may |
| 1:17.4 | have resigned. Now at the point that I record this, he hasn't resigned. So God knows where we'll be |
| 1:23.1 | by the time you listen to this. But certainly yesterday it felt like maximum peril, then obviously |
| 1:28.4 | the longer it goes on, you think, well, can someone ride this out? So who knows where it all |
| 1:31.6 | lands? But I think you can tell listening back already that there was just an assumption that |
| 1:37.9 | it might be ever by the end of the conversation. And that hasn't been the case. So bear that |
| 1:42.6 | in mind. But a fascinating analysis of how labor got here |
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