Show 397. Claire Coutinho
Matt Forde's Political Party
The Political Party
4.7 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 6 April 2026
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
Claire is the Shadow Secretary of State for Energy, Climate Change and Net Zero, having been Secretary of State in the last Conservative government... and she's changed her position on Net Zero.
In this candid and entertaining interview, she tells us why she's changed her mind and her frustrations with the system.
Claire also talks about having to confront her own mortality after the traumatic birth of her son and what it's done for her outlook on life.
Plus, freedom of speech, class, race and everything else going on in politics at the moment.
It's a classic.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the political party. |
| 0:13.6 | Today's guest is Claire Kattinio, the Shadow Secretary of State for Energy, Climate Change and Net Zero, whatever the current, whatever that department is called. |
| 0:22.1 | Claire Shadows it, and she held the brief in cabinet under Rishi Sunak. And this is phenomenal. |
| 0:28.9 | And we talk about a whole range of things, not just her changing opinion on net zero and the party shift. |
| 0:34.3 | And I think, to be fair, that shift has taken place also outside of the Tory |
| 0:39.0 | party in certain areas. But also just her life, where she's coming from, where she got values |
| 0:43.4 | from, why she's a conservative. She had a traumatic, giving birth to her son was traumatic and she |
| 0:49.8 | ended up in a coma. And we talk about that and the implications of that, whether it's changed |
| 0:53.8 | her view on life and politics. And just a whole range we talk about that and the implications of that, whether it's changed to view on life and politics. |
| 0:55.8 | And just a whole range of things about free speech and race and class and gender. |
| 0:59.9 | It's just this is, there's so much in this. |
| 1:03.5 | And she speaks so well that you can see why. |
| 1:06.3 | I mean, she was a rising star under the last government and was very prominent during the election campaign in |
| 1:12.1 | 2024 and you can see why it's sort of really talented communicator and you think well |
| 1:18.8 | I didn't really get onto it but you think well surely at some point in the future you'd fancy |
| 1:22.9 | a tilt of the leadership but maybe I don't know who knows who knows where a life will take |
| 1:26.3 | who's led a fascinating life already as it is so I think you're going to really enjoy this just to let you know the political |
| 1:31.4 | party returns to the stage on Monday the 20th of April with the home secretary shabana mamood |
| 1:36.5 | that will be fascinating obviously will be um deep into the local election campaign by then |
| 1:41.4 | and uh shabana is seen as a future Labour leader. So that would be |
| 1:47.0 | interesting. Of course, so much of what she's doing is, you know, some of the most talked about |
| 1:52.0 | areas of labour policy. Then on the 11th of May, I'm joined by Star of the Newsagents and LBC, |
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