BP is working to bring more lower carbon energy to the UK, like designing two hydrogen plants,

and we're keeping oil and gas flowing from the North Sea. It's and not all. That's how BP is backing Britain.

While today we're mostly in oil and gas we increased the proportion of our

global annual investment that went into our lower carbon and other

transition businesses from around 3% in 2019 to around 23% in 2023.

BP.com slash and not all. And the Hello and welcome to the political party.

Today's guest is Emma Revel, who is the External Affairs Director at the CPS

Think Tank, not the Crown Prosecution Service, but the

Center for Policy Studies which celebrates its 50th year this year and was

set up by Margaret Thatcher.

More on that to come.

Don't forget my tour starts on the 2nd of October

in just a couple of weeks at the Norwich Playhouse and goes nationwide. A few of the dates have sold out so I'm adding some more ones including some London dates and I'll announce those ASA people. If you follow me on Twitter at Matt Ford or go to my website

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notice of that. And thank you for all your messages about the Murder Phraser episodes and about all the ones that are recorded in Edinburgh.

So today's guest Emma Revel.

You may have seen her on Politics Live and on Sky News and things like that, a really assured performer and really

intelligent, really articulate and just really good at communicating very

and making the case for centre-right politics in a very pragmatic

and reasonable way and has always been very impressive.

She writes for City AM as well and is a brilliant writer.

So I wanted to talk to Emma just about a number of things.

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