Show 207 - Tobias Ellwood
Matt Forde's Political Party
The Political Party
4.7 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 19 March 2021
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
This is a brilliant analysis of the Integrated Review of Security, Defence, Development and Foreign Policy from the chair of the Defence Select Committee. Covering everything from nuclear weapons to why China isn't mentioned as much as it should be, from the soft power of the Premier League to why Brexit isn't mentioned as much as it should be, from the weaponisation of space to the 'Indo-Pacific Tilt', it's all in here. Ultimately it's about what Britain's role in the world should be. This is a riveting breakdown of geopolitics from someone who has personal experience of both serving in the military and seeing the horror of terrorism first-hand.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Political Party. Today's guest is Tobias L. Warchair of the Defence |
| 0:14.0 | Select Committee. And here to talk about global Britain in a competitive age, the integrated |
| 0:19.2 | review of security, defence, development and foreign policy. And you can read that report |
| 0:24.8 | in full. I've put the link in the blurb or the show notes. You can click on it now and |
| 0:29.0 | download it immediately. And I say that only half sarcastically. I read it in advance of |
| 0:34.0 | my interview in Tobias, but it's the sort of thing I would have read anyway. And it's |
| 0:38.0 | really good just for making you think about what Britain's role in the world should be. |
| 0:42.4 | And the issues of security are far broader than just traditional military issues. They're |
| 0:47.0 | about climate change, biodiversity loss. And this document is really broad. Now that has |
| 0:51.8 | strength and weaknesses. And as you'll hear from Tobias, he is frustrated at a lack of |
| 0:56.0 | detail in this report. But it was so stimulating to have an in-depth conversation and also that |
| 1:05.1 | reflects the broad nature of this report and the issues about Britain's role in the world and all |
| 1:09.3 | the different areas we can have influence in. And whether it's desirable that we do those things |
| 1:13.4 | and those and the moral questions that come from some of these issues. But it's just so good to |
| 1:18.8 | have a really good policy discussion that wasn't about Brexit independence or COVID. Now |
| 1:26.0 | I say that. I think all three of those things do crop up in this conversation. So not entirely |
| 1:31.1 | free of that. But I guess where they're not the sole focus is such a relief to go, oh, there |
| 1:35.8 | are other things we could be talking about as a society. We probably should be thinking about |
| 1:40.8 | what Britain's role in the world is. And of course, it's not impossible to talk about that without |
| 1:46.8 | thinking about what Brexit means for that. And Brexit is kind of notable by its mission in this |
| 1:53.1 | document. But anyway, I don't want to get too far into the kind of constitutional politics of it. |
| 1:58.7 | Makes for a very interesting basis for a discussion. And Tobias is a brilliant guest. He's chair of |
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