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Hello and welcome to the political party and I can officially say now Merry Christmas

because it's advent of Merry Christmas to you. Today's guest is Tracy Bravin and I've

just finished the interview and I feel so energized by it. There are some people you

talk to in politics that leave you with the sense they are impatient for stuff to be done

now. And that doesn't mean Tracy was impatient with me. I don't think she was. I mean, that's

what's broader into politics is that desire to get stuff done. A real practical approach

to it and a sense that things aren't fair. So let's deal with it now and get on with it.

Such a practical and pragmatic approach. That's not to say the practical and pragmatic

politicians aren't thinkers that they don't have their own driving political philosophy.

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