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Hello and welcome to the political party at the start of what I hope is a very happy weekend

for you. Today's guest is Ian Dale and I've been meaning to get Ian on for ages and

literally the moment we started talking, I just thought why is it taking me so long? I

kind of internally was kicking myself because this is such a wonderful conversation.

I'm sure you're familiar with Ian Dale and his work LBC presenter, former conservative

parliamentary candidate, publisher, author. He does it all. And I think he shares a similar

perspective on the world to me, although our politics are slightly different, although

in the grand scheme of things, probably not that different. But it's someone who talks

a lot about and thinks a lot about the nature of our discourse and the tone of it and why

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