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Hello and welcome to the political party. Today's guest is Jackie Bailey, deputy leader

of the Scottish Labour Party and their finance spokesperson as well in the Scottish Parliament

and what a week to be talking about finances because the jurors figures are out this week.

And if you wonder what the hell that means, that's government expenditure and revenue

Scotland, the stats about how much the Scottish government raises and how much it spends. As

you can imagine in the prism of the endless debate of a Scotland's constitutional future,

these figures are often either used or dismissed by people depending on what they do or

don't show. So we talked to Jackie about what they do mean, particularly in the context

of Jackie's perspective and the Scottish Labour's perspective, which is they would rather

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