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Hello and welcome to the political party. Today's guest is Vernon Coker, a former home

office minister, former shadow secretary of state for defence and for Northern Ireland

and was the labour MP for Gettling from 1997 until December's election when he lost his

seat. I should say it at the start. Vernon is a friend of mine. I've known him years.

He was one of the first MPs I've got to know when I first joined the Labour party and I've

been desperate to get him on and I wanted to get him on at the right time and this felt

like the right time. There's some things you should know about Vernon. That seat of Gettling

should have been lost ages ago. It had never been Labour before he won it in 1997. Everyone

thought he was going to lose it at every subsequent election and he held it and held it and held

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