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The People's Pharmacy

Show 1473: How Music Heals: The Neuroscience Behind an Ancient Medicine

The People's Pharmacy

Joe and Terry Graedon

Kids & Family, Alternative Health, Health & Fitness, Medicine

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

What do you conjure up when you think of music? Perhaps you imagine a singer-songwriter telling her story. On the other hand, you might imagine a parade with a marching band, an orchestra playing an outdoor concert or a mother singing her baby to sleep with a lullaby. Regardless of the format, music acts on the brain in unique ways. Neuroscientists are learning how music heals and why healers around the world have integrated music into their rituals for millennia.

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How Music Heals

Dr.Elizabeth Margulis directs the Music Cognition Laboratory at Princeton University. This scientific endeavor is devoted to understanding how our brains react to music. One discovery is that music has a lot in common with infant-directed speech. It is highly repetitive with exaggerated pitch modulation. When people talk to babies, they may slow their words down a bit and raise the pitch of their voices. All of these properties make infant-directed speech a lot more like music than the rest of our everyday utterances. Caregivers around the world adopt this sort of “baby-talk” because babies pay attention longer when they do. Is music tapping into the same primal brain responses?

Another characteristic of music is that it can trigger emotional responses. These are culturally conditioned; bagpipes do not have the same effects as Tibetan singing bowls. Howe er, the reminiscence triggered by music can be remarkably complete, putting us back in time not only to the place where we heard it before, but even to the bodily sensations that we experienced at that moment. Musical memories are exceptionally persistent. Older people with dementia who can no longer remember important facts about their own lives can often join in singing a popular song from their youth.

The Downsides of Music

Music may have social and political ramifications. Just imagine a chorus singing “We shall overcome,” and you will probably make assumptions about the singers and their values. As a result, we should not be surprised to learn that people may fight over music. Frequently entire generations have genre preferences such as hip hop or rock that are not shared by adjacent generations. How do we approach the music we love to hate? Can we understand how music heals even if we don’t like it very much or at all?

Musical Daydreams Help Us Understand How Music Heals

Dr. Margulis has studied and written about musical daydreams. What does she mean by this?

As you watch a movie, you may appreciate the score. But even if you don’t notice it at all, the sound track influences how you understand the action on the screen. Likewise, when most people listen to a piece of music, they may create a visual to go with it. Dr. Margulis offers us an example of a snippet of music by Liszt that evokes for many people an image of a cartoon cat chasing a cartoon mouse. Needless to say, that is not what Liszt was thinking when he composed it, since cartoons did not exist at the time.

Choosing Music for Healing

Joe mentioned the unobtrusive but soothing music playing in the background when he has an acupuncture treatment. Dr. Margulis suggested that music activates motor areas of the brain, and that might help explain the benefit in this setting. We are still learning more about how music heals. This research may some day guide healthcare professionals in choosing music for their practices, even in the hospital.

This Week’s Guest

Elizabeth Margulis,PhD, is Professor and Acting Chair in the Department of Music, with affiliations in Psychology and Neuroscience. Dr. Margulis directs the Music Cognition Lab at Princeton University. Her research pursues questions that lie at the intersection of the humanities and the sciences. She was also trained as a pianist. Her most recent book is Transported: The Everyday Magic of Musical Daydreams.  Her website is https://www.elizabethmargulis.com/about

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Elizabeth Margulis, PhD, Princeton University

Elizabeth Margulis, PhD, Princeton University

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Joe Graydon.

0:01.5

And I'm Terry Graydon.

0:03.0

Welcome to this podcast of the People's Pharmacy.

0:06.1

You can find previous podcasts and more information on a range of health topics at

0:11.5

People's Pharmacy.com.

0:14.6

People around the world have been using music for millennia.

0:18.8

Drum beats, flute tunes, and humming can be healing. This is the People's

0:24.1

Pharmacy with Terry and Joe Graydon. Today we'll learn how music affects our brains to change our mood or even bring back memories of special times.

0:41.3

Music can energize us. Think marching bands or national anthems at sporting events. It can also be soothing or irritating like music on hold.

0:52.3

Have you ever had the experience of being transported

0:56.6

back in time by a melody from your past? Coming up on the people's pharmacy, how

1:02.6

music heals the neuroscience behind an ancient medicine. An Ancient Medicine.

1:17.3

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1:23.4

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1:30.6

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1:37.3

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1:47.6

Three-fourths of them were female.

1:49.9

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1:56.3

lowered the risk of breast cancer.

1:59.1

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2:05.3

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artificial colors and foods and pharmaceuticals. After years of controversy, the FDA took definitive action against FDNC Red Die No. 3.

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