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The People's Pharmacy

Show 1425: How Can You Combine Supplements, Herbs and Medicines Safely?

The People's Pharmacy

Joe and Terry Graedon

Alternative Health, Kids & Family, Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

This week, two pharmacists describe why you should check with a pharmacist about possible problems when you combine supplements, herbs and medicines. In some cases, a supplement might interfere with your prescription drug. In other situations, an herb might slow metabolism of the medicine and increase the possibility of side effects. It’s better to know which pills don’t get along well.

You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream at 7 am EDT on your computer or smart phone (wunc.org).  Here is a link  so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on April 7, 2025.

Getting Information on Supplements & Herbs:

When you have a question about supplements or herbs, you probably go to the web for answers. But while there is plenty of information out there, not all of it is reliable. We start this episode by talking with a pharmacist who does research for one of the sites we use as a favorite resource, Examine.com.

The site has long provided information on what a product is supposed to do and how well it might do that thing. It also offers information on dosing and on quality. For example, if you look up turmeric, you’ll learn that Meriva and BCM95 are standardized extracts that have been used in a number of randomized controlled trials.

Now, Examine is going beyond efficacy and looking at safety. Because there is less information available about safety, even for medications, this has been more challenging. We especially appreciate that the summaries are succinct and easy to understand and that the statements are supported by peer-reviewed research. Checking Examine.com is a good place to start learning about potential incompatibilities among supplements, herbs and medicines you are taking.

What Does Grapefruit Have to Do with It?

We recognize that grapefruit is not an herb or a supplement. It is certainly not a medication, although it is a great source of vitamin C and regular consumption of grapefruit can help control cholesterol (Metabolism, July 2012).  Nonetheless, it is important to our topic, because scientists discovered a potent interaction between grapefruit juice and certain prescription drug many decades ago (Lancet, Feb. 2, 1991).

Although grapefruit inhibits the CYP3A4 enzyme that metabolizes many medicines, it is not the only plant product that can affect them. This was a wake-up call for us and for many health professionals to pay attention to interactions among supplements, herbs and medicines. Like grapefruit, both ginger and berberine inhibit CYP3A4. St. John’s wort, on the other hand, induces the enzyme, which means that the target medication may be less effective. If it is an oral contraceptive or a drug to prevent transplant rejection, you need to know that!

How Pharmacists Can Help:

Pharmacists stand ready to help people review their supplements, herbs and medicines to see if there are potential interactions, redundancies, adverse reactions or other problems. Technically, everyone on Medicare is entitled to a comprehensive medication review annually. Some pharmacists like to conduct that as a “brown bag review,” in which the patient brings in everything they are taking–OTC med, prescription drugs, herbs, vitamins and other dietary supplements–so the pharmacist gets a complete picture.

Sometimes, it may even be helpful to talk about food and drink. We already mentioned grapefruit. During this interview, we also bring up research showing that hibiscus tea (which can lower blood pressure) could interact with the cholesterol-lowering drug simvastatin (Journal of Clinical Pharmacy and Therapeutics, Dec. 2017).  Hibiscus tea itself lowers cholesterol well. However, it interacts with simvastatin and reduces the drug’s effectiveness. The authors of the study advise against co-administration.

This Week’s Guests:

Katie Jantz, MS, RPh is a researcher on the staff for Examine.com.

Katie Jantz, RPh, for Examine describes interactions of supplements, herbs and medicines

Katie Jantz, MS, RPh

Stefanie Ferreri, PharmD, is the Henry L. Smith and James L. Olsen, Ph.D., Distinguished Professor in Pharmacy Practice. She has served as the Chair of the Division of Practice Advancement and Clinical Education at the UNC Eshelman School of Pharmacy. Her main research interests include advancing clinical practice in the community-pharmacy setting.
https://pharmacy.unc.edu/directory/ferreri/

Stefanie Ferreri, PharmD, discusses OTC drugs

Stefanie Ferreri, PharmD

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Joe Graydon. And I'm Terry Graydon. Welcome to this podcast of the People's Pharmacy.

0:06.1

You can find previous podcasts and more information on a range of health topics at people's pharmacy.com.

0:14.6

How many pills do you take each morning? Many Americans swallow a handful of supplements along with medications.

0:23.1

This is the People's Pharmacy with Terry and Joe Graydon.

0:34.0

Natural products are popular. They're sold in pharmacies, supermarkets, and health food stores.

0:40.3

But how can you find out how to use them safely?

0:43.9

Are your pharmaceuticals fighting with your supplements?

0:48.1

How would you know which herbs or vitamins might interact with your cholesterol-lowering medication?

1:00.0

What about quality? We've been worried about generic drugs made abroad, but supplements get even less oversight from the FDA. Coming up on the people's pharmacy, how can you combine

1:05.6

supplements, herbs, and medicines safely.

1:21.2

In the People's Pharmacy Health Headlines, the highly infectious disease measles was actually declared eradicated in the U.S. back in 2000. Now, 25 years later, the U.S. is experiencing a serious outbreak of measles

1:30.8

that has sickened nearly 500 people and killed one child. In addition to fever, a rash,

1:37.7

and respiratory symptoms, measles can cause complications such as pneumonia, blindness, deafness, and encephalitis. Travelers are at risk

1:47.6

if they're unvaccinated and visiting areas where there are outbreaks, such as Texas, New Mexico,

1:53.7

Florida, and Kansas. There are also areas in Europe, Africa, and Asia, where measles infections

2:00.2

are increasing.

2:01.6

The WHO is recommending that international travelers make sure they're fully vaccinated.

2:07.3

Two doses of the measles vaccine offer 97% protection against the disease.

2:14.4

This week, the European Heart Rhythm Association met in Vienna. One notable

2:20.2

presentation came from Denmark. The investigators tracked sudden cardiac deaths in adults

2:26.3

in 2010. There were 6,000 deaths from this unpredictable condition. The authors of the research

2:33.7

wanted to know how many of these individuals were also taking

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