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Show 1320: The Fascinating World of Tiny Animals Living on Us (Archive)

The People's Pharmacy

Joe and Terry Graedon

Alternative Health, Kids & Family, Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.6 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

This week on our nationally syndicated radio show, we explore the ecology of our bodies, especially our skin. Our faces, our armpits and even our bellybuttons harbor a multitude of tiny animals that we don’t see most of the time. What are they doing on us?

The Fascinating World of the Tiny Animals Living on Us:

We begin our conversation about the Serengeti on our skin with face mites. Humans host two different species of face mites, tiny arachnids that live in our hair follicles. You might think that they are pretty closely related, since they both live on us. But genetic analysis show that these species actually diverged from their common ancestor 130 million years ago. They are barely related at all!

Mites in the Demodex genus are not the only tiny animals living on us. There are minuscule nematodes as well as a whole host of bacteria and Archaeans, along with viruses that feed on them (bacteriophages). How do they affect our health?

Everyone has an ecology of skin organisms; like our gut microbiome, they may be similar but not identical from person to person. Most people never notice their Demodex mites and couldn’t tell you whether they have any effects. However, some dermatologists attribute the pimple-like lesions of rosacea to Demodex directly or to our immune reactions to the mites or the bacteria they carry.

What can we do to restore our skin’s native ecological balance? We should be careful that if we use antimicrobial treatments, we don’t throw the entire system even further off balance.

The Tiny Animals and Microbes in Our Armpits:

What about our armpits? We may worry about underarm odor and, rightly, attribute it to the skin microbes that thrive there. In fact, the armpit is specially adapted to support certain types of microbes, particularly Corynebacteria.

What we call sweat glands are actually apocrine glands, specialized structures whose purpose is to feed the native inhabitants of our armpits. If we apply antiperspirants to shut those glands down, we can completely disrupt the ecological balance of our armpits. Instead of Corynebacteria, various forms of Staphylococcus start to dominate the Serengeti of our skin there. We may smell somewhat less stinky to a human, but we smell a whole lot more appetizing to a mosquito.

Maintaining the Ecology of Our Skin:

It may be helpful to consider the microbiome of our skin in a similar way to the microbiome of our digestive tract. If you have to take an antibiotic for ten days, there is a chance that it could cause collateral damage. In addition to killing the pathogen responsible for whatever infection you are treating, the antibiotic may also kill a lot of your gut bacteria. That leaves some ecological niches wide open, and a weak but fast-growing species takes advantage. Like a weed proliferating in your garden, Clostridioides difficile (C. diff) takes off and can cause a lot of trouble. We haven’t identified all the equivalents in our skin microbiome, but the process is similar, and the triggers–overused antibiotics–might be, as well.

An Effective Remedy from Viking Days:

Our ancestors may not have known anything about the tiny animals living on our skin, but they had a lot of practical wisdom about how to deal with them. Just as home bakers know a great deal about fermentation that you won’t find in textbooks, people developed quite a sophisticated knowledge of how to manage common infections. Dr. Dunn describes a Viking manuscript with an eye infection remedy. The researcher who encountered it put it to the test and found that it contains several ingredients that should make it effective against skin infections. We could benefit by paying more attention to the care and feeding of our skin microbes.

This Week’s Guest:

Rob Dunn, PhD, is an ecologist and evolutionary biologist, focusing on the biodiversity of humans. He is the William Neal Reynolds Distinguished Professor in the Department of Applied Ecology at North Carolina State University and Senior Vice Provost for University Interdisciplinary Programs. In addition, he is a visiting professor in the Center for Evolutionary Hologenomics at the University of Copenhagen.

Rob Dunn is the author of several books including his latest, Delicious: The Evolution of Flavor and How It Made Us Human (co-authored with Monica Sanchez)  and A Natural History of the Future: What the Laws of Biology Tell Us.

More of his books can be found on Amazon.

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The podcast of this program will be available Monday, May 15, 2023, after broadcast on May 13. You can stream the show from this site and download the podcast for free.

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0:00.0

I'm Joe Gradyton and I'm Terry Grady. Welcome to this podcast of the People's Pharmacy.

0:06.1

You can find previous podcasts and more information on a range of health topics at people's pharmacy.com.

0:15.0

You've heard about the microbiome, the microbes that live in our GI tract,

0:19.0

what about the microbes that live on our skin?

0:22.0

This is the people's pharmacy with Terry. microbes that live on our skin.

0:22.5

This is the People's Pharmacy with Terry and Joe Grayden. Ecologist Rob Dunn studies the teensy creatures that live on us.

0:38.0

He'll help us unravel the mystery of face mites.

0:42.0

We'll also learn about the bacteria that thrive in our armpits and belly

0:45.8

buttons. In the larger world, taking out one species has a ripple effect on the whole ecosystem.

0:54.1

Could the same be true for our skin?

0:56.7

What's the relationship between diet and acne?

1:00.1

Coming up on the people's pharmacy,

1:02.2

the fascinating world of tiny animals that inhabit us. In the People's Pharmacy Health Headlines, the United States Preventive Services Task Force, or

1:20.3

USPSTF has just proposed new guidelines that would change the timeline for mammograms.

1:27.0

In 2009, the USPSTF recommended that women at average risk for breast cancer start getting regular The 50 to 40. The group recommends that women get screening mammograms every two years.

1:46.5

This change seems to be prompted by rising breast cancer rates among younger women, especially

1:52.4

among black women. They're 40% more likely to

1:56.0

die of breast cancer than white women. Hopefully earlier screening will detect

2:00.9

tumors earlier so that they can be treated effectively.

2:04.0

The USPSTF warns that people at higher risk for breast cancer

2:09.2

should ask their personal physicians for advice on when to start screening and how often to do so.

2:15.9

If a woman finds a lump in her breast, she should ask for a mammogram regardless of her age.

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