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The People's Pharmacy

Show 1277: Why Our Healthcare Costs Are So High

The People's Pharmacy

Joe and Terry Graedon

Kids & Family, Alternative Health, Health & Fitness, Medicine

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2021

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Over the last year and a half, while the nation endured a terrible pandemic, patients with COVID-19 were treated even if they couldn’t foot the bills themselves. Will the high cost of COVID break the bank? Now that people will end up paying for treatment out of their own pockets, will more Americans than ever end up bankrupt? Dr. Elisabeth Rosenthal, editor-in-chief of Kaiser Health News, explains why our healthcare costs are so high.

Who Is Affected by High Healthcare Costs?

During this pandemic, vaccines have been available at no cost to the individual being vaccinated. In some places, COVID-19 tests were also supposed to be free of charge, or very affordable. However, Dr. Rosenthal tells about a physician who got such a test to be able to travel. Later, he discovered that the facility administering the test had charged his insurance company $54,000. Worse, the insurance company paid it. Because he had been administering the tests himself, he knew that the materials used were less than $10 worth. He was deeply disappointed that the insurance company was not interested in protesting the outrageous charge.

COVID-19 treatments like ECMO can cost more than a million dollars. The antibody cocktails can help reduce hospitalization, but they cost thousands of dollars. The new antiviral drug, molnupiravir, should make a difference for treating people with COVID. It will be less expensive than antibody transfusions, but Merck is charging the US government over $700 per patient. Federal funds supported early development of the drug.

The Mystery of Hospital Billing Codes:

Hospital billing codes appear mysterious, but they serve an important purpose for the hospital: they allow it to bill separately for each step in your care. This is one of the reasons healthcare costs are so high. If we want to ensure that healthcare is affordable in the future, hospital billing codes and the bills associated with them will need to become transparent.

The High Cost of Prescription Drugs:

At this time, Americans pay more for healthcare than people in comparable countries. It is not at all clear that we are getting our money’s worth. One area of particularly high healthcare costs is the prescription drug market. Congress gave pharmaceutical companies incentives to develop “orphan drugs” for rare conditions that wouldn’t be commercially attractive. Instead, the industry has taken those incentives to develop drugs with sky-high prices. Even everyday drugs like insulin may be too expensive for many people who need them, though. Some people skip such essential medications just because they can’t afford them.

Politicians are well aware of this problem. For years, they have campaigned on drug price reform. However, there’s been no progress. We consider a drug recently approved by the FDA for Alzheimer disease. Although it doesn’t seem to be very effective at reversing cognitive decline, it is pricey. Just imagine if a drug company developed a truly effective drug for this dementia. They could charge whatever they want for it. Would it break the bank for private insurance or for Medicare?

Advice for People Overwhelmed by High Healthcare Costs:

How can ordinary people fight an unfair bill? Dr. Rosenthal says it is really hard, but not impossible. She offers advice to listeners about addressing their medical bills.

This Week’s Guest:

Dr. Elisabeth Rosenthal, Editor-in-Chief, joined Kaiser Health News in September 2016 after 22 years as a correspondent with The New York Times, where she covered a variety of beats from health care to environment and did a stint in the Beijing bureau. While in China, she covered SARS, bird flu and the emergence of HIV/AIDS in rural areas. Her book, An American Sickness: How Healthcare Became Big Business and How You Can Take It Back was a New York Times best-seller and a Washington Post notable book of the year. After graduating from Harvard Medical School, Dr. Rosenthal briefly practiced medicine in a New York City emergency room before converting to journalism. Nina Subin holds the copyright on the photograph.

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0:00.0

I'm Joe Gradyton and I'm Terry Grady. Welcome to this podcast of the People's Pharmacy.

0:06.1

You can find previous podcasts and more information on a range of health topics at people's pharmacy.

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com.

0:14.0

COVID has taken an unbelievable human toll.

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It's also resulted in huge economic losses.

0:21.0

Who will pay the bill? This is the People's Pharmacy with Terry and

0:26.7

Joe Grayden. Dr Elizabeth Rosenthal was an emergency physician before she became a journalist.

0:39.8

She's now editor-in-chief at Kaiser Health News. She describes an eye-popping bill for a COVID test.

0:47.0

Most patients did not have to pay for their COVID-care last year, but the government and insurance companies are now moving

0:55.1

the goalposts. Millions of people are suffering from long COVID who will pay for

1:00.5

their treatment and how much will it cost.

1:03.3

Coming up on the People's Pharmacy, learnlines, the Food and Drug Administration recently

1:19.8

announced the recall of the blood pressure medicine herbisartin.

1:24.0

All batches of this blood pressure medicine made by the Indian drug company

1:28.0

Luppin are being pulled off pharmacy shelves.

1:31.2

That also includes herbisartin and hydrochlor thiocide pills.

1:35.0

Urbusartin is referred to as an angiotensin receptor blocker or ARB, ARB, ARB for short.

1:41.0

The problem involves a contaminant called in nitroso herbisartin. Nitroso compounds are

1:47.9

considered probable carcinogens. This is not the first time arbs have been recalled because of contamination.

1:55.0

Blood pressure medications such as Valsartan and Low Sartan have been recalled

2:00.0

because of other nitroesamine impurities such as N nitroso dimenolamine or NDMA.

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Millions of pills had to be destroyed because of this probable carcinogen.

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