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The People's Pharmacy

Show 1211: A Conversation With the Coronavirus Hunter

The People's Pharmacy

Joe and Terry Graedon

Kids & Family, Alternative Health, Health & Fitness, Medicine

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2020

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Ralph Baric has been studying coronaviruses for 35 years and is one of the world’s leading experts on these pathogens. In this interview, you will learn how the virus jumped from bats to people and how it replicates. Moreover, Dr. Baric was already studying remdesivir, a medication being utilized against this infection. He will explain how it works and why another drug may be even better. Is this coronavirus hunter optimistic that we will be able to overcome the pandemic? Get the ultimate insider’s expertise on this deadly infection.

The History of SARS-CoV-2:

Early this year, reports of a mysterious illness began emerging from China. People were coming down with severe respiratory infections in the centrally-located city of Wuhan in Hubei province. They didn’t have flu, but doctors weren’t sure what they had caught. Early on, an ophthalmologist warned his colleagues that the disease was behaving like SARS, an early 21st century infection due to coronavirus. Scientists in China soon identified the pathogen as a coronavirus and sequenced its genome. While most Americans were taken by surprise, some infectious disease experts had long been dreading such an outbreak. One, Dr. Ralph Baric, is known as the coronavirus hunter.

The Coronavirus Hunter:

By mid-January, the coronavirus had a name: SARS-CoV-2. (Some scientists simply call it SARS-2.) The disease it causes had been named COVID-19 because the virus came to attention and started causing trouble late in 2019. Before long, with modern air travel and global trade, the disease was spreading around the world.

Where Did SARS-2 Come From?

The coronavirus hunter Ralph Baric and his colleagues all agree that this pathogen originated in bats. As it happens, numerous other coronaviruses that infect people have also come from from bats. Today, several of those have co-evolved so that they cause only mild illnesses generally classified as colds. However, SARS-2 only recently jumped from bats to humans, so nobody has resistance to it. As a consequence, this coronavirus could infect nearly everyone in the world.

How to Study Coronaviruses:

Because these pathogens are potentially so dangerous, the laboratories that study them need to be specially equipped. Dr. Baric’s lab at the University of North Carolina is a Biosafety Level 3. He describes what that means and the safety precautions that go into it. He also discusses what we know about the BSL3 laboratory in Wuhan.

How Does SARS-CoV-2 Spread?

This pathogen replicates itself efficiently. Moreover, it spreads very readily from one person to another, often before the infected individual even has symptoms. That is how it has caused a world-wide pandemic. The viruses can remain viable on surfaces for many hours, up to a few days, depending on the surface, the temperature, exposure to light, etc. One controversial topic is whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus is transmitted by the aerosol route. Research suggests that that is possible.

Drugs to Treat COVID-19:

As the coronavirus hunter, Dr. Baric has been involved in studying medications that might be useful against emerging coronaviruses. That’s why the Gilead drug remdesivir was ready to go into clinical trials against COVID-19 fairly quickly. Recently, investigators have seen results in placebo-controlled trials of remdesivir that have earned it the FDA’s Emergency Use Authorization.

Remdesivir is injectable, so doctors administer it only in a hospital setting. Dr. Baric’s group and their colleagues at Emory University and elsewhere have been developing an oral medication, EIDD-2801. Dr. Baric refers to it as NHC, and he explains how it is similar to and how it differs from remdesivir. (For more information, see the publication noted below.)

This Week’s Guest:

Ralph Baric, PhD, is the William R. Kenan, Jr. Distinguished Professor in the Department of Epidemiology and Professor in the Department of Microbiology and Immunology of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He is a Harvey Weaver Scholar from the National Multiple Sclerosis Society and an Established Investigator Awardee from the American Heart Association. In addition, he is a World Technology Award Finalist and a fellow of the American Association for Microbiology.

He has spent the past three decades studying coronaviruses and is responsible for UNC-Chapel Hill’s world leadership in coronavirus research. For these past three decades, Dr. Baric has warned that the emerging coronaviruses represent a significant and ongoing global health threat, particularly because they can jump, without warning, from animals into the human population, and they tend to spread rapidly.

Dr. Baric’s team recently published a study on EIDD-2801 as a potential treatment for SARS-CoV-2 (Science Translational Medicine, April 29, 2020). An earlier study defined the way the virus interacts with host cells (Journal of Virology, March 17, 2020).

Listen to the Podcast:

The podcast of this program will be available Monday, May 11, 2020, after broadcast on May 9. It will include questions on antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 as well as on some other medications that are being tested.

The show can be streamed online from this site and podcasts can be downloaded for free. CDs may be purchased at any time after broadcast for $9.99.

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0:00.0

I'm Joe Gradyton and I'm Terry Grady welcome to this podcast of the People's Pharmacy.

0:06.1

You can find previous podcasts and more information on a range of health topics at people's pharmacy.

0:12.4

com.

0:14.0

COVID-19 took almost everyone by surprise,

0:18.0

but some scientists anticipated a coronavirus epidemic.

0:22.0

We'll talk with one of them. This is the People's Pharmacy with

0:25.4

Terry and Joe Grady.

0:27.0

Dr. Ralph Barrick is known as the coronavirus hunter. He's been studying these

0:38.2

pathogens for more than 30 years. In particular he's been concerned about how they jump without warning from animals to people.

0:47.0

The FDA has issued an emergency use authorization for the antiviral drug remdessevere to treat COVID-19.

0:55.0

Dr. Barrack will tell us about the research on this drug and another promising medication

1:00.0

and what they could mean for the pandemic in the future.

1:03.6

Coming up on the People's Pharmacy, a conversation with the coronavirus Hunter.

1:08.8

In the People's Pharmacy Health Headlines, new data suggests that the coronavirus causing COVID-19 escaped China long before anyone suspected it was a problem.

1:26.6

Health officials in France tested samples from patients who were ill in December 2019. One of them, a 42-year-old man who developed pneumonia but tested negative for influenza

1:39.0

was found to have been infected with the coronavirus. His blood sample was drawn on December 27th,

1:46.8

approximately a month before the first COVID-19 patients were diagnosed in France.

1:52.4

The man was sick for two weeks and infected both his

1:56.0

children. No one knows how the man became infected with the coronavirus since he had

2:01.0

not traveled to China or anywhere else for that matter.

2:05.0

U.S. officials have also found evidence that some people who died in California during

2:09.4

February were infected with COVID-19.

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