I hear you. And here we are. It's another episode of Showertime. Klein Allie Showertime. It's a bonus show.

You didn't ask for it, but you're getting it anyway. And maybe you don't care. Maybe you're just listening to this because you're too lazy to. And it'll be called Showvertime. That's right. We're going to call it Showver Time. It's just an extra show that we do every week because we appreciate you and if you're bored or you hate your job or you hate your life or you've got a long ride

and you need someone to keep your company and you have not discovered any of the other much more qualified and award-winning podcast out there, then we will go ahead and let you slog with us. We're just here to have a good hang. Just here to hang out, and get me polar. Talk about each other. That's a great name for a show.

We're going to call this the Diary of a CEO. That seems to be a popular one that I hear a lot about. 20, there are certain shows, podcasts particularly, that you just cannot stop hearing about them. Oh, my God. As soon as Amy Poehler's podcast started, I got serviced every single clip. And then it won the, you know, Golden Globe for Best Podcasts and everything else.

And I sometimes get to a point where I'm like, everyone says it's great. It's winning awards. I refuse. I refuse to listen to it. I don't want to know what it's about. I don't care if it's going to be great. I just don't want to get into it. Just because you're stubborn. I don't, I'm not like averse to those podcasts, but like call her daddy.

There's like all those interview podcasts. I just don't care. I don't know why. I would rather listen to like true crime shit. I don't listen to any podcasts like that whatsoever. Even with good hang, I see some of the clips. I'm like, I would probably enjoy that. Never going to do it. It also feels that, and this is the thing we talk about on the show when we get pitched guests and we do get pitched a lot of guests and we say no, more often than we say yes. And it's not because we don't like the people or we like the guests or anything like that. It's nice to have people in occasionally, but it does feel like everyone is everywhere

all the time now. And so when you are hearing an interview, because I think about that too, like, would I be fascinated? You know, when I was going on Shark Tank, I was really fascinated with all things Mark Cuban. I really wanted to get to know the guy. I was listening to a lot of podcasts that he was going on as a guest because I really wanted to kind of get a sense of how he ticked. and after a while,

he's got fascinating stories.

Guys live an amazing,

very successful life,

but you start to go like, oh, I feel like I've heard a version of this before. The well has run dry. And with an insert, you know, whoever it is here, comedian, whatever, there was a time when everything felt very limited. It was a big deal. Like, oh, I can't believe, like, you know,

whoever it is is going to be the guest on this was a big deal. Like, oh, I can't believe, like, you know,

whoever it is is going to be the guest on this talk show or this. So it was like appointment watching and viewing. And now it's like, ah, if I missed it, I'll just catch him on six other things tomorrow. Totally. And I, and what else, what else? What other part of that that pisses me off? Amy Pollard wouldn't have spoken like that. No, she would not.

Well, they would have just edited it out.

But the part that pisses me off. Amy Polar wouldn't have spoken like that. No, she would not. Well, they would have just edited it out. But the part that pisses me off is that all of this shit is so calculated now. It's like, okay, Gwyneth Paltrow has a new thing to promote and she's going to reveal some crazy story about her life that she's never revealed before. Why don't we book her on Amy Poehler and she'll just launch into that story right away? So that there's really no work on the host's part. They just have to go, hey, how you doing? By the way, I got gang raped in at one time in 1989. What? That's crazy. And it's like, oh my God, she's such a good interviewer. But really, it's that all of this was a PR plan from the beginning. And then if there's a situation where you and I have five minutes with Gwyneth Paltrow, you're like, oh, man, let's ask her about that story. And she's like, I have no idea what you're talking about. Buy my book. Yeah, right. I'm just sort of talk about the book. Like you can't get anywhere with anybody

because all of that has been predetermined.

Yep, yep.

And that's why I like a sort of talk about the book. Like you can't get anywhere with anybody because all of that has been predetermined. Yep, yep. And that's why, like, a lot of times when we say no to interviews, it's because they'll say you guys need to pre-submit all of your questions ahead of time for approval. And that is something that I don't even necessarily blame the artists for or the people that are being interviewed for.

That's their team because their team is all, everyone's just trying to keep their job.

So they're like, we don't want to be the people responsible when the question gets through that becomes the big thing.

And our favorite part of talking to anyone is getting something out of them that they've never said to anyone ever before.

And then usually, like we've done many times in the past it kind of becomes

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