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Economist Podcasts

Shoutshow: Trump and Biden clash

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The Economist

News, News & Politics

4.35K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2020

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

America’s first presidential debate was unmitigated chaos, revealing little more than the rancour between the candidates. In Chicago a newish musical genre called drill has a strong relation to the city’s gang violence; we ask whether it is a causal one. And amid a global rise in hand-washing, we look at the fascinating, fragrant history of soap.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Intelligence on Economist Radio.

0:07.2

I'm your host, Jason Palmer.

0:09.4

Every weekday, we provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world.

0:17.8

Chicago has always been a wellspring of music.

0:25.6

Lately, its big export is a genre of rap called drill. We speak to an author who spent time with drill artists

0:28.6

and ask whether the music simply reflects or actively promotes the city's gang violence.

0:34.6

And getting your whites whiter has come a long way since the Romans, who used

0:41.5

urine. We take a historical look at soap, crossing paths with Victorian values, sparking

0:48.4

the field of surface science, and now offering a clean win against COVID.

0:56.7

First up, though.

1:04.4

The Commission has designed the format,

1:07.1

six roughly 15-minute segments,

1:12.1

with two-minute answers from each candidate to the first question, then open discussion for the rest of each segment.

1:15.0

President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden took to the stage last night in

1:19.8

Ohio for the first American presidential debate, moderated by Fox News host Chris Wallace.

1:25.8

Despite the early attempt at rule setting, the end result was chaotic. I got rid of the individual mandate. Excuse me, I get rid of the individual mandate. I'm not here to call out his lies. Everybody knows he's a liar. But you agree. I just want to make sure. I want to make sure. Vice President, no. Can I be honest? It's a very important question.

2:03.9

Vittriolic. Don't ever use that word. Oh, give me a break. Because you know what? There's nothing smart about you, Joe Forty. Would you shut up, man? One of the big debates. Wait a minute. You get the final word, well, it's hard to get any word in with this clown. and unlikely to change many voters' minds, just five weeks before Election Day.

2:07.1

We have ended this segment. We're going to move on to the second segment.

2:09.3

That was really a productive segment, wasn't it?

2:12.5

The debate left even seasoned commenters in shock.

2:17.4

As someone who's covered presidential debates, that was the worst presidential debate I have ever seen.

2:22.3

And raised serious questions about whether President Trump would accept the outcome of November's election. I would say that watching the debate was like watching a car crash, but at least a car

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