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Should Zelensky negotiate with Putin?

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🗓️ 13 November 2023

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

The head of Ukraine’s military says the war is at a stalemate. Meanwhile, Western attention is shifting to the Israel-Gaza conflict. So is a military victory off the table and should President Zelensky start negotiating with President Putin?

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Guest: Mark Galeotti, historian, Sunday Times contributor and author of Putin’s Wars: From Chechnya to Ukraine.

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0:00.0

On the 24th of February, when Russia invaded our country, the world gave us three days.

0:13.0

Some European countries who really believed in us

0:17.0

they said one month,

0:19.0

now it's almost two years,

0:21.0

now initiative in our hands.

0:24.0

President Zelenski's just returned from another trip to the US

0:30.0

where he was hoping to rally support.

0:33.0

He's insisting that the war in Ukraine hasn't reached a stalemate,

0:38.0

but as the much-anticipated spring offensive slipped summer, and now autumn, not much seems to be changing on the ground.

0:49.0

World leaders believe that it's a frozen conflict and that it's really arguable

0:55.1

whether Ukraine can really win.

0:57.1

Even the head of the Ukrainian military

1:00.5

says that they've only gained about 10 miles during the counter-offensive.

1:06.0

Meanwhile, some of Ukraine's Western allies are starting to show signs of fatigue.

1:13.0

The majority does not support additional financial assistance to Ukraine.

1:17.0

The last time we took a clean vote on Ukraine funding,

1:20.0

there were 101 Republicans who voted yes, there were 117 Republicans who voted no.

1:26.0

Polls down in the United Kingdom, United States and Germany suggests that the willingness to support

1:30.7

Ukraine against Russia's invasion is falling among its allies.

1:35.0

Allies in Europe, in particular in the United States, have their own domestic political situations to deal with.

1:40.0

A lot of these countries are running down their own stockpiles of weapons and all of these other things that are on politicians mind.

1:47.0

Just as support for Ukraine was already becoming strained, the world is now gripped by another war in the Middle East

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