So, guys, Derek, more plate tomerdates.com. Today we're going to be reacting to a video posted by Dylan McKenna on his story yesterday.

A lot of you guys sent me this, I guess presumably because I did the reaction to his cycle a year ago or whatever,

and then I had the recent reaction to his other cycle. And, you know, he commented on it. We sort of like went back and forth a little bit and uh recently he

actually won his pro card which is cool so good for him on that and um here we go this is the

story it's about um sarms and uh test bases so you know right up my lane in terms of what, you know, I've talked about many times

in the past and I guess let's see what his take on it is.

All right, so this is for anybody out there who needs to hear this that asks me about

SARMs all the time.

So if you're not on a testosterone base, okay, and you want to take a SARM that is going to crash your test levels to very low slash even potentially the omazzo.

It's completely not worth it because, you know, to build muscle to do the things you want to do, the reason why you're taking the SARM, you need testosterone.

So it's just counterproductive. Don't do SARMs if you're not on a test base. Just don't do you need testosterone. So it's just counterproductive.

Don't do SARMs if you're not on a test base.

Just don't do it.

Okay, so he says, don't take SARMs if you're not on a test base because you need testosterone

to build muscle.

That's not entirely accurate.

I think more what he's probably trying to say is that you need a base of estrogen in there I'm

assuming I don't know like that's something I touched on in the first video I did

reviewing his cycle actually where I talked about how using DHT derivatives only

pre-contest was a poor cycle protocol and like he didn't have a test base I think his

first cycle is like anavar plus windstrel or something and I basically elaborated on the you

know how problematic it can be to have crash test levels and zero estrogen so I don't

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