I'm Peter Martin, and I'm Adam Manus. Welcome to the You'll Hear It podcast.

Today we're going to talk about should you practice patterns.

Now, I'm going to go out on a limb here because we've actually never even discussed this, Adam.

But I'm going to say no.

I'm going to say yes. Okay. So that's pretty binary right there. I know. I mean, can we even be friends anymore? I don't know, man. This might be the last, you'll hear it. Sorry, no. Okay, let me lay out my, my, my philosophy on no. And I guess I should have qualified it a little bit. I'm saying, I don't think we should practice patterns the way that it was presented to me,

which was like you would learn something, and then you would practice that.

Okay, now I did pick a very corny, generic pattern to do and play it in a corny way. But I just think that

if we, when we say patterns and we don't think about them at least, or call them, you know,

melodies or motifs or something in the musical realm, then it becomes just like this kind of

generic building block for our music that can start to maybe feel good

and maybe even sound good on like a micro level but it's a little bit anti-improvisation

almost so like the way I like to think about it is no you shouldn't practice patterns but

shapes are okay to practice so like there's certain shapes that I love the sound of I love the feel of on the piano, you know, like maybe

like this over kind of like a C minor 11. That's good. Like and then you might take that and learn that, but I'm not necessarily

think about it as a as a pattern only like it's more of just a shape that I feel and that I can use as as an actual building block

to patterns quote unquote as a part of my soul that I would build later okay I think we're

pretty much on the same page here who's getting worried the no one blows there nomenclature

just might have been different of how we looked at it so you it seems like practice sounds. You find a sound you like and you don't consider it a pattern, you consider it a shape, but it's really a sound is what you are into. And I agree with you that just, you know, getting generic licks out of a book and then running through all 12 keys, you know, you could learn how to play a little bit, but it sounds really

boring and generic. I agree with that. But I guess I think what I was saying when I said,

should you practice patterns, is whenever I find something, a sound that I love, be it some kind of

voicing, I'm going to take that through all keys. I'm going to practice it in ways that kind of throw me off so that when I have to recall it, it's ingrained in me. And I consider that a pattern a little bit. Yeah, but that was a shape. Now, folks can't see there now that maybe that's, that's, that's, that is a shape. But again, yeah, you're right. It's the nomenclature. I think it's the same thing we're actually talking about. All right. Well, podcast done. Friendship resolved.

Yep. You're right. It's the nomenclature. I think it's the same thing we're actually talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Well, podcast done. Friendship resolved.

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