Okay, we're live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates

Today's show. I have two very special guests, returning guests. People have been on my show

if you listen to it in the past. It's Austin Wayne Picard of the underclass podcast and also

Jacob of Rise to Liberty. And I was driving up north to attend to some family matters.

And I listened to them talking about Satanic Panic.

And it was a great show.

It was very long like that three and a half hours or two and hours or something like that.

But a lot of information.

But I still think it's very important.

Like what happened in the past?

How valid is this?

And as usual, we were sitting down to start at like 405

and the pre-show went off for 20 minutes.

Some of these are really interesting,

but it's like talking shop in the kind of research community

is very important.

Some of the stuff is interesting, but maybe it's not like for public

consumption so much. I think it is for public. I think I've been around so for so long. I know

like a lot of the backstories to a lot of these people. Like I've literally published my first book

16 years ago, which is really crazy to think about it. But anyway, it's an

important topic. It's still around in the literature. People still accuse people of satanic panic.

The new one is the Epstein files. The moral panic, the same thing. Like people are the panic in.

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