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Today, Explained

Should you blow up a pipeline?

Today, Explained

Vox

Daily News, Politics, News

4.49.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2023

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Climate activists have tried marching and lobbying. Now, a growing flank of movement radicals want to take more extreme action. Author Dana Fisher tells us who they are, and sociologist Matthew Wolfe traces the history of radical environmentalism in the US. Today's episode was produced by Avishay Artsy with an assist from Siona Peterous. It was edited by Miranda Kennedy and fact-checked by Jon Ehrens. Our engineer is Patrick Boyd. Transcript at vox.com/todayexplained Support Today, Explained by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

In how to blow up a pipeline, a movie that was released last year, a group of climate

0:06.2

activists get together to blow up a pipeline in Texas.

0:09.6

They're going to call us terrorists.

0:10.6

I just...

0:11.6

Oh, they're going to call us revolutionaries.

0:12.6

They're a game changer.

0:13.6

No.

0:14.6

They're going to call us terrorists because we're doing terrorists.

0:16.6

Who cares what they call us?

0:17.6

I heard nobody.

0:19.6

The movie is fictional.

0:20.9

The book that is based on is nonfiction.

0:23.3

The author Andres Mom argues that sabotage and property damage are valid tactics to confront

0:28.8

fossil fuel use.

0:30.3

It was a zeitgeist movie, but is anyone blowing up a pipeline?

0:33.8

Things got physical outside.

0:35.8

Civic groups headquarters in Tribeca today with activists blocking the entrances.

0:40.8

Climate change activists have climbed into Rome's Trevi fountain and cast diluted charcoal

0:46.6

into the water, turning it black.

0:49.8

Not yet, but they're doing lots of other stuff.

0:52.3

Coming up on today explained, we're going to look at the past, present, and future

0:56.3

of environmental radicalism.

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