There's something so romantic about winter and I don't know whether that's just because

I'm a bit of a homebody and I love a 5th.

But I think it's just the holiday period, it's just for me, it's the most romantic period.

And I think anyone who's listened to my records will know that I'm quite a big fan of romance.

Joy in every sip with red cups now back at Starbucks.

Hi everybody, this is John Donovan.

I'm David Ariost, I'm the head of editorial of Intelden Square, I'm also your host and moderator.

For tonight but before we get started, I just want to thank the director for his interview.

I'm David Ariost, I'm the head of editorial of Intelden Square.

I'm also your host and moderator for tonight but before we get started, I just want to thank

the German Marshall Fund for having us here to do this all important debate.

It's something because of the timeliness of this topic that we wanted to focus on.

Obviously, Ukraine and Russia are topping the headlines.

But the place, the place of where we're at is also highly relevant.

NATO is just right up the road here.

The Swiss banking system, which several Russian banks were banned, is also headquartered here.

And President Dobler Zolinsky came here after his inauguration to petition for EU membership

and for NATO membership.

It's also a place that is very much steep in history in broader sense.

I know from a personal perspective, my grandfather was wounded here back in 1944 during the last

major German offensive of the Second World War, the so-called Battle of the Bulge.

And I remember him describing just how cold he was.

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