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Should We Call Female Leaders ‘Pastors’?

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2020

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

The New Testament doesn’t apply the term “pastor” to any leader in the church, but only to qualified men who oversee and teach the flock.

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0:00.0

Today, we jump feet first into a boiling debate over whether female church leaders should

0:08.4

be called pastors.

0:10.6

The question comes to us from a listener named Nick.

0:13.7

Hello, Pastor John.

0:14.7

My church is changing its view on the use of the word pastor to include women, saying Ephesians

0:20.6

4-11 is the only place in the Bible where the Greek word for pastor is ever used, and

0:25.9

there it doesn't have any specific qualifications.

0:28.9

You can fill this rule and still be under male headship, and a male elderboard almost

0:33.2

more like a deacon or deaconess who leads specific ministries in the church, like a pastor

0:37.4

over worship, or a pastor over women's ministry.

0:41.5

But would this change in title be in line with other parts of scripture, Pastor John?

0:46.3

What do you have to say to Nick?

0:47.8

Well, let's clarify first that this is a kind of intra-complementarian debate.

0:54.9

It is a debate among complementarians, a debate among those who agree that the New Testament

1:02.2

calls for spiritual, mature, gifted, qualified men to bear the official responsibility in

1:11.7

the local church for governing and teaching leadership.

1:15.4

Complementarianism means more than that, more than just those qualifications for church leadership.

1:23.4

For example, in the home and in society, but that's the relevant part for this debate.

1:28.8

It's a debate among those who agree on that point.

1:33.2

The question is whether it's biblical or wise or misleading to use the word pastor for

1:42.2

various roles that women can play, various appropriate roles that women play.

1:49.3

That's the issue that I'm addressing and that I've been reading about recently.

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