All right, we're going to get to the callers in a second.

I just want to make a point.

Last point about Lions and the rest is up to you guys.

From an NFC North perspective, here's kind of where I've arrived at.

Okay?

You're five and three, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with five and three.

The composition of it becomes a little concerning after yesterday.

Fine.

The Packers have now lost to the Browns and the Panthers.

And while the Panthers aren't what they used to be, the Panthers are five and four.

I have to just, they're five and four.

The point is, Green Bay lost Tucker

Kraft. That's the equivalent of you losing. I'm not saying they're equal in talent,

but like Tucker Kraft is kind of their arm on rot. That's their dude. He leads them in everything.

If I'm downgrading them and I'm downgrading you, the Bears, it's not a work of art and the defense is egregious.

But Ben Johnson's cooking.

That offense is fun.

That offense is hard to stop.

And yes, even with that weirdo at quarterback, he made some big plays yesterday.

And the Vikings, the very team that marched in here, let's offer this.

They've played the entire year without their starting five up front, 80 million different combinations.

And they played the last, what, six weeks without their starting quarterback.

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