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Welcome back to Gabbyn with Gibb. I'm your host, Gips and Johns, and today on the show, we're asking and answering the question, should Van Pruelstars join the Valley? And yes, I sense the group eye roll with everyone listening to this right now. But you know what?

While production and the internet sentiment seems to be pointing in one way, there are genuine

pros and cons to both sides of the coin. Perhaps there's a happy medium, too, where if the lines

between the shows are more blurred, or people pop in and out when there's organic drama that

involves them that can make for good TV, or maybe there should remain a distinction between the two shows, and that line should be made a little more clear. How does the Van Pumpt Rules production pause play into all of this? Would some time away from the cameras impact how we think about these questions? Who exactly are we even considering could work for Vendarmup Rules on the Valley to begin with? To help me answer and debate all of this, I invited friend of the pod Kara Barry back onto the show. She hosts the awesome long-running podcast, Everyone's Business But Mine, and she has quite the Van Rural Scholars, so she knows what she's talking about and was the perfect person to have on this episode with me. This one is coming out the morning after Part 2 of the Summer House reunion aired on Bravo. So if you were hoping for an episode about that today, do not fret. We have a

summer house end of season deep dive coming for you on Tuesday. I wanted to wait just a beat and not

rush into recording that one for a couple of reasons. One, I wanted to make sure that I got to

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