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Welcome into this edition of ESPNFC.

I'm Dan Thomas, joined by Craig Burley and Shaka Hissop. We also welcome to the program today. Mark Ogden is here and for the very first time, former referee Andy Davies joins us. So just to warn you Andy, referees haven't had a great time on this show in the past. So we'll just set the standard day. like a social worker for referees because we, you know, the amount of abuse over the years,

Clattenberg and Peter Walser. Okay. So we're just sitting the standard day. We should be like a social worker for referees because we, you know, the amount of abuse

over the years, Clattenberg and Peter Walton have had. Yep. And Howard Webbush. I was just looking at those goals and I was trying to find reasons to allow some of them. Yeah, of course. That's top 10 goals. That's coming later on in this show. So right then Andy, let's get straight to it then, shall we, mate.

What on earth were your boys thinking thinking giving this goal for Spurs?

Well, listen, it's an interesting one, isn't it? This caused incredible debate and

and split opinion over the last 24 hours of spoken to many an ex-player and ex-manager who are split down the middle in terms of whether they feel it should be a goal or not.

The question really is in terms of not whether it's whether it's enough of an error or clear and obvious error for the VA to get involved and over a overrule or or recommend it it on field review and I think there's enough

doubt in my view overall I'm quite comfortable that a non-intervention is the correct outcome

and we can discuss the merits of that and the detail that if you like now in a second but

now we should say Andy was a former player as well mm-hmm so I'm a

little surprised by any mind he was a unless he's completely just turned to the other side obviously

when the referee and I I I didn't think that was when I saw when I saw I didn't really see it

at full speed and I don't criticize any referee

for missing something that the speed of the game has played these days. But when you roll in all

the technology and all the, you know, with the VAR, I think it was Jared Gillett back at Stockley,

I just don't see how this cannot be a free kick

I don't think the clear and obvious

comes into it

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