The Pope is very anti-Maga. He detested President Trump. He detested the Maga movement.

The death of Pope Francis leaves a void. He basically stood as a living rebuke to this rising tide of right-wing populism that has infected the world.

This idea that Christianity is just this open, feel-good, kumbaya thing. It it's completely liberation theology and that's why people

like this guy love Pope Francis I never said your definition you're opening you've got a problem

with liberation theology but that's your problem time out time man for Francis is a Jesuit to call him

a liberal would be to misunderstand his entire papacy Pope Francis burns in hell for his accommodation with evil. Would you really mean that, Roger Stowe? The Pope's embrace of Marxism, that is not the Catholic Church that I prefer. There's a huge schism between what the modern church is and what the traditional church stands for. That's the fight you're going to see in the conclave and thereafter.

President Trump was among the world leaders paying a heartfelt tribute to the late Pope Francis

at the Vatican this weekend. In life, their relationship was not always straightforward.

Way back in 2016, the Pope questioned candidate Trump's faith,

declaring that a person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be and not

building bridges, is not a Christian. Trump, of course, responded. If and when the Vatican is

attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS's ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the Pope would

have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been president.

Well, a liberal, reformist Pope and a firebrand conservative president would never like you to see

eye to eye on everything, if anything at all.

Many commentators suggested the Pope looked glum when they first met in 2017, and Trump's own

second coming did not build any bridges between the Vatican and Marilago. The Pope called mass

deportation plans a disgrace, and those voters to pick the lesser of two evils in the build-up to

November's election. Well, with the Pope's passing and the conclave now confirmed for May 7th to choose the next

Pope, many traditionalists are calling for a reset in the Catholic Church and for a new

papal leader who has much more in common with the US President.

In a moment, we'll debate the politicisation of the pontiff with my panel, but we'll begin with a man who's had a significant influence on both the White House and the Vatican, the host of Warham, Steve Bannon.

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