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I'm Max Jeffrey and I'm joined by Katie Bulls and James Forsyth.

The row of MP's earnings outside of Parliament seems to be getting even worse.

If you can remember this, began with Owen Patterson.

Katie, what happened at yesterday's debate?

Well, there's lots of anger. It was an emergency debate ultimately on MP's standards,

and she had Kirste-Starmer, responding on behalf of Labor. But when it came to,

who was representing the Tories, Boris Johnson was not there. He was on a government visit.

And instead they sent Steve Barclay, who's now a cabinet office to go out and speak on his behalf.

And I think that immediately, obviously, set the tone of that debate in the sense that it gave

the opposition something quite easy to attack on. I think there was plenty they could already have

attacked on if you think about the plenty they could already have attacked on.

If you think about the Owen Patterson Rowe and the botched attempt by the government to change standards, then renege on it.

But ultimately the fact that Boris Johnson didn't bother to be there, I think it meant it was quite easy to say, well, this government isn't even apologetic.

I'm not serious. I mean, he also had a

pool clip yesterday with Boris Johnson, and he didn't say sorry. Steve Barclay, when he was speaking,

ultimately did suggest that the government was sorry, they apologised for, you know, a misjudgment.

But I think part of the issue is it doesn't feel as though those at the very top of government are, you know, making that line.

So Nadeem Zahori, the education secretary has suggested similar when he's given an interview.

But it doesn't seem to be so joined up.

And I think that if you look to what, you know, Jack Straw once said, which is that ministers, you know, never more safe them out

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