Hello, you're listening to the Times Red Box Politics podcast. I'm Patrick McGuire in

for Matt Chauley. Today, we've got none other than Bake Off Star prune leaf on the podcast.

We'll be talking to her about assisted dying and why she thinks it's time for politicians

to legalize it. But first, it's time for this.

The columnists on Times Radio. Yes, I'm joined by the Times columnist, Danny Finkelstein,

Morning, Danny. Good morning. And deputy opinion editor and columnist at the Financial Times,

Miranda Greene. Good morning, Miranda. Hello, nice to be with you.

Nice to be with you too. No Henry Zephman today, but we've got a, I think we've got a

star panel in his, in his absence. Right, Danny, from page of this morning's times,

this afternoon is the deadline for the carbon office to hand over what's up to the COVID

inquiry or not. Let's have a listen to William Hague speaking about this on Times Radio

breakfast this morning. He argues that some things should be kept private.

I think the problem here is the president set for the future. I think when you're in a crisis

and going, I've been in a few, what you most need is people who will give you honest,

uninhibited advice, who will say, actually, what my boss told you is just now is wrong.

Well, actually, I have a completely different view to what everybody just said in that meeting.

And so, well, now that takes place on WhatsApp now. And I think that if those messages are all

then to be given an inquiry on whatever said it, people are, they're not going to be less likely

to give that honest advice. Do you now think, Danny, when you were working for conservative

leaders, you were lucky not to be working in the era of WhatsApp and constant digital

communications that were liable to be handed over to statutory bodies at any given time?

Yes, probably. And the concerted body was at that point so far behind labor in terms of its

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