Hello, everybody. Welcome to Three Point Perspective, the podcast about illustration, how to do it, how to make a living at it, how to make an impact in the world with your art. I'm Jake Parker.

I'm Lee White. And I'm Will Terry, and all three of us are professional illustrators. We've all worked for all the major publishers in the

business. Together, we've published about 75 children's books, and we've all taught illustration

at university art programs. That is correct. Each week we interview fantastic illustrators or

answer listener questions. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we argue, but each time you learn something

brand spank and new., brand spanking new.

Brand spanking new. And today we have some questions. Will, if you're on YouTube, you just saw

Will hold up a post-a-note that says, I never learn anything new, which is false. Because we've been listening to this guy for the last year,

dive into self-publishing in a way that he hasn't ever done before with pickleball Paul.

No one has done before.

I don't know anybody who's done a deep dive like this.

Yeah.

Well, yeah, I'm sure there's...

I know there's people, but I don't know them is what I'm saying.

Yeah.

So Will is every time we talk, he's all, check out this new thing I learned.

Did you know that the Library of Congress won't take your book unless it's not published yet?

Right. Yeah, or the other one we learned

last week, what was it, is Ingram, which is a major book distributor, won't take your books unless you

have 30. Is that right? 30 titles. 33. 33, something like it's either, I might have remembered it

wrong. It's either 30 or 33 titles. But it's up there. So you can't submit as a self-published illustrator.

So these are just some of the factoids that you guys are going to learn.

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